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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:00 am

Anti-GMO crazies think they’re above the law

I’m so over all this anti-GMO talk, protests, and now graffiti.

Why is it okay for all of you GMO haters to spray paint (yes, graffiti) all over our public roads and signs?

I don’t get it. Oh yeah, it’s because people like you think you’re above the law, you can do as you please.  

You are the same people that protested the Superferry and ruined it for all the people that really wanted it.

You are the same people that move here from the Mainland and build your home where you want it, but when your neighbor wants to build his/her home, you protest that because you feel the island is too crowded and we should put a stop to all new development.

Is defacing public property with your silly anti-GMO graffiti really necessary? It’s childish and down right illegal.

You all think you’re above the law? Well you’re not, this will come back to bite you one day.

As far as all your claims that the GMO companies are spraying poison everyday on us, and we’re all becoming sick from the GMO foods, obviously you haven’t lived here long. Back in the day when the sugar cane companies were in full swing they used to fly planes and helicopters daily to spray poison on hundreds of acres of cane to kill weeds. They also sprayed fertilizer. Then when it was time to harvest the cane they would burn all of it, including the poison and fertilizer.

Do you think any of that was better than GMO?

Obviously you haven’t seen the recent studies on organic food, it’s a big marketing hype, so they can charge more for the supposed organic goods.

If we didn’t have GMO, foods we would have so much more famine in our world, but then again I guess that would be fine with you, starving, dying children.

Why don’t you butt out of everyone else’s business and take care of your own?

Jordan Opelu

Kapa‘a

Propane is too expensive

There is a big problem in America: propane. I just got my bill and they are already letting me know that I will have an increase in my next bill.

I did research on this and there is not any regulation on prices — they can charge whatever they want. I found out there is no cap on how much profit they can make. We now pay $6.11 per gallon here and, of course, on the Mainland less, but that is not the issue.

When will the increases stop?

I have seen my bill more then double in a few years. Being robbed of money every month is very wrong.

I contacted our elected officials and we were working on it but they moved on and my concern was dropped. There have been politicians in the past that tried to make a change but did not succeed. I’m not sure why. This a big problem and I don’t understand why it can not be regulated. I understand profit but this out of control.

Let your senator know if this is a concern. If we don’t speak out we will keep paying more and more.

Donna Perlman

Kapa‘a

Sex is holy

The  Catholics, Orthodox Catholics, traditional Jews, Muslims, and Evangelical Christians all forbid any sex outside of marriage because they believe that sexual act is considered a sacrament or holy act.

When the married couple join in their DNA, with God providing an immortal soul. This happens days after the sex act and is an deliberate act and ‘choice’ of  God.

This act of God from the statement in Genesis: “be fruitful and  multiply.”

The prime directive for men and women seeking a sexual union.

 

Ed Smetana

Arlington Hts, Ill.

Beach flyers should be handed out on the plane

In response to “Despite community efforts, drownings still occur” (A1, Feb. 17), Monty Downs said, “the major issue is visitors not being informed.”

Then Sue Kanoho of the Kaua‘i Visitors Bureau agreed, but said, “there are a wide variety of resources out there.”

It seems the problem is that people are drowning before finding out about the resources.

I see the answer as the tourists must know and fully understand the dangers before they step off the plane or cruise ship. I’m sure that there are those who think that if you tell people there is a good chance you might drown while swimming in our ocean here, they will go elsewhere to spend their vacations.

On the other hand, if we were to create a flyer that is passed out to every person on the plane before landing, this would at least be the first step to inform them of the dangers of ocean swimming here.

The flyer should be the efforts of the Kauai Visitors Bureau, and Monty Downs and the Lifeguard Association.

I’m sure by all being involved, including the airlines and cruise ships, they can come up with a informative flyer that ensures their vacation here is the best ever and not become a catastrophe.

Steve Martin

Kapa‘a

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41 comments:

  • Cholan posted at 9:15 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    Cholan Posts: 4

    And to clarify, other religions claiming they are of Christian faith, Mormons & Catholic are different.

     
  • notahippi posted at 7:43 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    notahippi Posts: 526

    I don't do graffiti, I am Hawaiian, and I do raise a large family garden.... It makes me sick seeing what these GMO corporations are doing to our land, ocean, air and body when we eat their fruit and veg.....to make matters worse their poisonous seeds our pollinating w/ our organic plants....making our seeds unproductive.....one more generation to go and they will own the whole global food market....and you don't find that scary?....


    I'd like to slap a few heads together to these goons that say "keep our environment green" when they have poisoned 1/2 the West side! I notice too that they just keep on building more and more buildings behind their black "dust blanket" w/out any community input..... As far as not seeing Hawaiians out on the road protesting, we learned years ago the only ones that win the land grabs....is always the one w/the most money...


    My aloha goes to the North side Hawaiians Aunty Kaleihua Kathy, Bobo, Rick, Warren Ham-Young for standing up and not giving up...

     
  • Cholan posted at 10:13 pm on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    Cholan Posts: 4

    You and our Kauai will never be the same after David Black's ownership of LTE begins Bettejo. You may regret your anti-religious rants once Mr. Black picks his pro-development editors to influence LTE. jzwiebel's link below is worthy of reading. He graduated from University of B.C. with a degree in civil engineering and obtained his MBA at the University of Western Ontario. So what is Mr. Black's plans for Kauai? Read the Star Advertiser's editorials. They are pro development.

     
  • JustClaire posted at 9:21 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    JustClaire Posts: 0

    LOL.....good one

     
  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 11:00 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    Catchy tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fofKzn6qSo

     
  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 10:56 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    There's so many... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRgLgmLGRpQ

     
  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 10:50 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    LOL's


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo8PRMb-EEc

     
  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 10:48 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    This is a funny one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7pPzwbyWA0

     
  • manongindashadow posted at 9:45 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    manongindashadow Posts: 334

    It's a good idea to inform our vistors about possibillities of being hurt, bodily harm, and or/death near or in our oceans, hills, trails, etc. However, it doesn't help when the over adventurist ones don't heed the warnings.


    I drive around every day and many times I see many tourists climb over guard rails near the cliffs. Especially up on Waimea Canyon Drive just to get a bird's eye veiw of the mouth of the canyon or to veiw the river and the valley below. It happens at Hanapepe, Hanalei,Wailua Falls and Opaika Falls overview, too. The same with the beaches.


    We have signs and warnings. Still some of the over adventurist ones will heed the warnings and go as close as possible to see the waves. So fliers from a plane, hot air balloon, or whatever would be a waste of time, and money. Then there is the posibility of more opala on the beaches, roadsides, and land.

     
  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 9:38 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    Whether you are a fan or not of GMO... Enjoy the laugh from here...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOYKeUB9MgQ

     
  • PeteAntonson posted at 9:11 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    PeteAntonson Posts: 2529

    The response was to "alien" and the post made earlier about a cancer spike on the Westside. No support was offered for this or the accompanied opinion as to it's cause. Maybe you don't need proof; but, the CDC does and has the ability to make what actually is a very difficult connection to prove. Alien doesn't and neither do you.

     
  • PeteAntonson posted at 9:01 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    PeteAntonson Posts: 2529

    kauaiboy, Where do you see me supporting anyone? I sure don't support the rabble that doesn't understand that you can't just say "Oh, the horror!" and not have to prove it.


    As for your International Corporate Agenda, that's just another run of the mill conspiracy theory that can be debated. I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in harm being done on, and to, Kauai. If you have proof; then show it....then go to court with it. Put up, or shut up.

     
  • wiseguy posted at 8:58 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 21

    MRI ring a bell? I don't recall seeing those on Ozzie and Harriet. Technology that is capable of detecting cancer in it's smallest form that would have previously went unnoticed until the person died of "natural causes". Pancreatic cancer is the 13th most common. Can't say that I read about that one very often in the Garden Isle.


    Looks like a high BMI in men is the number one factor and the United States, where more GM seed is sold in the world isn't in the top 20 for rate of occurrence. As for liver cancer....hmmm let me ponder that one. Stats show that Hepatitis is correlated to most cases and that Mongolia has the highest rates in the world, by a long shot. I wonder how much GM seed is sold there? That would be none, zero, zip. The rates are higher in developing nations due to lack of sanitation (clean water, air, etc). Has nothing to do with the crops. There is no EPA or OSHA in these countries. The infrastructure is incomplete. That's why they are developing.

     
  • tooindependent posted at 8:36 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    tooindependent Posts: 307

    Right is not necessarily right.... It's funny how people come up with discussion on a letter. Steve never mentioned "our horrible ocean". Maybe try read letter again.


    Did you read what Mr. Downs said? We are in the middle of nowhere surrounded by what is considered to be at times a dangerous ocean and because all of us who live here and understand the possible conditions it's our responsibility to make sure we find the best way to alert our visitors. Seems it's common sense to find a way to alert them before they are all caught up in the beauty and lure of our island. Let's view your letter on a better way to solve the problem.


    mr. Downs has done a great job but still needs help and input... There is lots of idiots that cause the situations that take there lives, but it's a true catastrophe for the innocent family or person who we could of helped.

     
  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 6:10 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    Are you sure they weren't saying...

    Hey Zeus ?!

     
  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 6:09 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    LOL's!

     
  • kauaiboy posted at 5:41 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    kauaiboy Posts: 286

    Pete- are you saying that you support the multi-national GMO seed/poison corporations in their activities on Kauai? That you feel it is fine for them to engineer plants to resist the effects of chemical herbicides and pesticides when they are doused with them? And that their history of attempting to corner control of the world's food supply in the name of shareholder profit is just fine by you? If so, you are on the very wrong side of this issue.

     
  • kauaiboy posted at 5:34 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    kauaiboy Posts: 286

    Not-so-wise guy,

    Perhaps 500 years ago...but 50 years ago, that was 1963, and cancer was well-documented. Are you seriously arguing that world cancer rates are not really on the rise, but that it is simply diagnosed more often?

    It may be true that cancer rates are increasing fastest in developing countries, which is exactly where GMO seed crops are increasingly being planted. Might there be a correlation?

    The link you provided shows naught. Don't look for a correlation between GMOs and lung cancer, watch for the really insidious cancers...liver and pancreatic cancers.

    Oh, and let's see, if cancer is rising fastest in developing countries, then it is rising slowest in developed countries, like those in Europe, which have banned GMOs.

     
  • wiseguy posted at 4:35 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 21

    Right on Jordan. Let science base your opinions, not fear. Increasing cancer rates due to GMOs....hardly. World cancer rates are on the rise as a whole. Why? Better diagnostic tools. How many people knew they had cancer 50 years ago? Cancer has always been present, we are just better at detecting it now.


    Plus, there are more people born everyday, which means if the rate stays the same there are more people that will have cancer. What's the number one cancer? Lung cancer. I think we know what causes that.


    Where are cancer rates increasing the fastest? In developing countries, where organic farming is still the norm. Sorry, not due to GMOs. Below is the supporting data, from a non-profit source that is not sponsored by either side.


    http://www.wcrf.org/cancer_statistics/cancer_facts/lung_cancer.php

     
  • dawg2000 posted at 4:01 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    dawg2000 Posts: 174

    It's interesting that you assume the facts can only support your position, therefore I must be lacking facts...

     
  • PeteAntonson posted at 3:09 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    PeteAntonson Posts: 2529

    Don't you just love the patronizing calls to "get educated?"


    What this means is to peruse all the outrages on IhateGMO.org or touchyfeelyfarmer.com about events in Bumfuddle, India or Diddly Doo, Bangladesh and other places where officials get angry about not receiving a big enough bribe.


    How about a new phrase like "Prove it?" I'm talking about proving what occurs on Kauai. All I've heard is unsupported charges that never get challenged within the group that makes them. Where are your runoff numbers, your soil samples? Where is your evidence, your corporate memos? Where are your Kauaian whistleblowers (in the age of whistleblowing)?


    Your movement to destroy something based on gossip heard on the lawn in front of Papayas, instead of through evidence gathered on Kauai, that would stand up in court, is inherently wrong and at least as immoral as what you believe yourself to be fighting.

     
  • da1wahine posted at 11:55 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    da1wahine Posts: 9

    In spite of Dawg's comment re: support of Jordon Opelu's position, I don't believe that the majority of people, silent or otherwise, want to be sprayed and poisoned by the chemical companies. For some of us, ignorance is bliss.


    If Mr Opelu and his faithful Dawg choose to turn a blind eye to the effects of GMO, illegal legislation that fosters Superferries and PLDC, and other Governmental sponsored violence, thinking that it doesn't/ won't negatively affect them, God bless them. I do agree it's time for the majority to speak up, but please get educated to facts first, so that your opinion is your own. not a regurgitation of what the Corporations and their Media mouthpieces tell you.

     
  • manoaborn posted at 11:49 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    manoaborn Posts: 159

    Great letter, Jordan! You are absolutely right. And when you read all the responses from the usualy crew here, just remember: illegitimi non carborundum!

     
  • manoaborn posted at 11:47 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    manoaborn Posts: 159

    Ms. Perlman, did you vote for the current Administration? If you did, you voted for higher gas and utility bills. They promised those prices would increase. Were you paying attention? It's for your own good.

     
  • Cluesaw posted at 11:19 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Cluesaw Posts: 281

    Religious messages? My newlywed neighbors must be religious. Almost every night they pray, "Jeeesus!!"


    Tom Cruz, SD

     
  • jzwiebel posted at 10:52 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    jzwiebel Posts: 5

    More "interesting" is the question of why the Garden Island printed his letter. And just who is "Oahu Publications," "Black Press," and David Holmes Black? And why is he building an oil refinery in British Columbia? (Can you say Alberta Tar Sands) http://www.vancouversun.com/business/2035/Media+mogul+David+Black+knows+recognize+business+opportunity/7106236/story.html

     
  • kauaiboy posted at 9:28 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    kauaiboy Posts: 286

    Mr. Opelu, please do not lump all anti-GMO activists into one basket. I'm a 25 year resident, an organic farmer, and vehemently anti-GMO corporations for the harm they have done and the specter of even worse harm to come if they remain unleashed.


    I do not condone using spray paint in public places to get the anti-GMO message across, though I admit I AM happy that the Superferry fiasco never became a reality.


    Do you believe that the spraying and burning done by the cane companies was a good thing for the health of Kauai's residents and the health of the soil? Do you honestly believe that the organic foods I grow without chemicals are a "big marketing hype"? And do you really think that GMO foods are preventing famine and saving starving, dying children?


    You have bought the GMO corporate lies hook, line, and sinker, and I highly suggest that you get your head out of the sand and educate yourself as to the true motives and results of the attempts to monopolize the world's food supply.

     
  • onegeaeme posted at 9:21 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5792

    ...love it. Sex educate, birth control. Good. Strange religious messages? Who needs them?


    Peace and love Bettejo Dux

     
  • kauaiboy posted at 9:12 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    kauaiboy Posts: 286

    I highly encourage sex before marriage. How else will you know if you are sexually compatible with your partner? If it turns you are not, then you are not doomed to an unhappy marriage, or as likely to become a divorce statistic. Just be sure to wear a rubber! Let realism rule...

     
  • DayDreamer posted at 8:41 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    DayDreamer Posts: 152

    Ed Smetana of Arlington Hts, Ill. - posts his religious beliefs all the time. I'm sure he just floods papers all over the country.

     
  • mrb posted at 8:06 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    mrb Posts: 136

    Oh, those raging hormones have no regard for "when and why" pro-creative arrangements mandated by Holy Scripture should be allowed.. Those hormones just go on their merry way whenever the mood strikes, and as has been pointed out, they dictate and determine all of those connective moments that can go on and on.....until the machinery needs a boost of Viagra or something.


    The human species has the most complexed tissues of matter called the brain---which governs the thought processes and creative abilities of humankind.....including you-know-what. But, no matter what, when that urge persists, something must be done! There have been a whole range of suggestions (which most people know about), but that's beside the point.


    So, however one decides to deal with the situation: Be discreet; take the appropriate precautionary measures regarding personal hygiene; etc. Just don't make babies for the hell of it! Life is precious. .

     
  • Lyle Bargamento posted at 7:47 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Lyle Bargamento Posts: 226

    Donna Perlman —


    Use less pay less.


    Lyle Bargamento


    Kapaa/kekaha

     
  • dawg2000 posted at 7:34 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    dawg2000 Posts: 174

    Thanks for the letter Jordan! You are right on and in a mostly silent majority, but it might not stay silent if this BS keeps up.

     
  • rightisright posted at 7:30 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    rightisright Posts: 9

    Steve - Hand out flyers to everyone on the plane warning them about drowning in our horrible ocean?

    Why not a flyer that warns them not to hike and fall, not to jump off cliffs into the ocean or river, not to drive on the highways because we have so many fatalities on our two way roads, don't breath while here because we have GMOs and a nearby volcano, and, oh yes, don't have sex while here without using a condom because we have an epidemic of STDs on this Island.

    Anything else?

     
  • rightisright posted at 7:24 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    rightisright Posts: 9

    Ed Smetana of Illinois - Huh?

     
  • rightisright posted at 7:23 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    rightisright Posts: 9

    Jordan - You obviously work for a GMO company. Let me sum it up for you. No want Superferry make Kauai suberb of Honolulu. No want GMO spraying pesticides etc. all over Island (old days not good - no repeat). No want building in Agricultural lands (small island, fragile, only weather and beauty to sell, no kill beauty!). You move to Oahu. You happy there!

     
  • alien posted at 6:58 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    alien Posts: 345

    Jordan, pull your head out of the sand. Do some real research and you might realize the effects of these seed companies on the island. Do you know about the Cancer spike that has happened on the westside in the neighborhood down wind from the Pioneer seed companies test fields? Yeah, those folks did not move here — they are locals. Go ahead tell them they are crazies while they receive their chemotherapy treatments.

     
  • onegeaeme posted at 6:40 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5792

    Early morning comment. It's raining and I'm about to get ready to visit metropolitan Lihue. But a question: what do you think inspires Ed Smetana from Arlington Heights to send us such a message?


    Thank you, STEARIS. Once-just once-I saw the Horse Head Nebula in a backyard telescope. I've never been the same since.


    Peace and love Bettejo Dux

     
  • Tiger Fan posted at 6:25 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Tiger Fan Posts: 0

    I normally don't comment on religious issues but feel compelled to make a statement concerning Mr Smetana's LTE.


    As a Christian, I can understand the no sex before marriage message (it is the perfect method of birth control) but have to question his "prime directive" statement. If procreation is the only reason for sexual activity, then why, after the wife conceives, does the couple usually continue having it? Your job is done until the baby is born and then you start the process all over again. If you observe the animal kingdom, we are the only animal that does it for the enjoyment of the act.


    His statements, IMO, are just silly and it's folks like him who reinforce people like Bettejo's beliefs that all Christians are close minded bible thumpers. I will agree that sex is a gift but, IMO, not a gift to be opened just once a year.


    Perhaps this will get by the editors (nothing dirty in it fellows).


    Have a great day in paradise. Aloha Y'all.


    Lew Taylor


    Lowndesvoro, Al

     
  • interesting posted at 1:36 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    thanks for the pointers on sex / god / choice etc, mr akin

     
  • interesting posted at 1:35 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    probably those people do not think they are above the law, so much as they feel righteously driven or some such thing / drank the cool aid

     

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