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Posted: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 7:27 am, Fri Oct 26, 2012.

Repeal Act 55

On 21 Oct., Susan Oakley asked us all to contact our state representatives demanding the repeal of the PLDC (Public Lands Development Corporation).  

To support Susan, I created a petition on signon.org where those who agree with Susan can easily “sign on.” I forwarded the petition to my Rep. Dee Morikawa.  

After two days, only 57 people have signed on. Perhaps that explains Ms. Morikawa’s response that the governor would veto any attempt at repeal. In other words, she patted me on the head (nicely) and told me to go away.

When the state builds a new resort on your favorite beach, you’ll have to explain why you couldn’t take 10 seconds to speak out. If you are really interested in closing the PLDC, you have to stand up NOW and make your name publicly known — otherwise, quit complaining.  

Next year, it won’t matter. Speak now or shut up.


John Zwiebel


Is this what democracy looks like?

Because of its transparent and democratic conduct of the presidential debates, the League of Women Voters was given the boot by the combined Democratic and Republican parties from sponsoring future debates. Instituted in its place and now presenting the debates is a corporation, the Commission on Presidential Debates, with former Democratic National Party and Republican National Party chairmen and other party luminaries on the board of directors.

To discourage third party candidates, the CPD created the “15 percent barrier.” To be allowed on the debate stage, a third party candidate must have earned 15 percent favorability in five national polls. In a post Citizens United world, this is a nearly insurmountable bar for candidates without corporate backing.

 Under the Federal Election Campaign Act, a political party that receives 5 percent of the popular vote qualifies for federal matching funds. So under the CPD rule, taxpayers can finance a candidate’s campaign and yet not see or hear them in the nationally televised debates.

The major parties didn’t like the League of Women Voters’ impromptu and unfettered Town Hall Presidential Debates, either, where citizens were called upon at random to pose a question relating to their personal concerns. Now, audience members write down their questions, which are vetted by the CPD to eliminate questions about issues the candidates would rather avoid, like corporate and wealthy donor corruption of the election process.

On Tuesday, Oct. 16, Green Party candidate Jill Stein was arrested as she entered the site of the second presidential debate at Hofstra University in New York. She had debated Mr. Romney in the 2002 Massachusetts gubernatorial election, after which the Boston Globe declared her “the only adult in the room.” She was handcuffed and held in a nearby warehouse for eight hours. Her name will appear on 80 percent of ballots nationally.

Every concerned citizen must reconcile what democracy looks like, but this can’t be it.

Kip Goodwin


We should use Albizia for fuel

In response to a letter on Oct. 19, 2012 by Jo Steciuk: If you do not want to cut down Albizia trees for fuel, then you should stop using electricity. Since the world’s oil and coal supplies are dwindling daily, people have started to turn to renewable energy sources. Albizia is a great energy resource for Kaua‘i.  

These trees are very fast growing. They can grow 12 inches in diameter and 60 feet high in just four years! The trees are able to grow at this rate because of the nitrogen nodules on their roots. The nitrogen is a natural fertilizer for the tree. In fact, many other trees require petroleum-based fertilizers to get the benefit that Albizia has naturally. So, not only are Albizias fast growing, but it is cheaper to grow than trees that need external fertilizer. The Albizia trees that are cut grow back even faster than the trees that grow from seed, because the root system is already in place for the growing plant.

Another thing that makes Albizia a good choice for fuel is the fact that the wood dries out very easily. This makes making electricity from Albizias easier and cheaper. The preferred method of making electricity using Albizia is called gasification. In gasification, extremely high temperatures are used to turn the wood into a gas. If the wood was wet, it would take extra fuel and more time to burn off the moisture before the gasification process could begin.  

The last reason that it’s good to cut Albizia down to create electricity is the fact that the trees are a menace to neighborhoods.

The branches of Albizia are very brittle. This is because the Albizia branches store a lot of water in their core.

Therefore, the Albizia trees are prone to falling and causing damage to property especially when it is windy outside. In fact, a couple of years back, an Albizia branch fell on my neighbor’s guest cottage.

The falling tree ripped the stairs off the house and damaged the roof.

Falling Albizia damages power lines and block roadways. Cutting down Albizia would help prevent these accidents.  

Sure, Albizia is a beautiful tree to look at. But, it’s far more useful (and safer) to cut it down and create electricity that we are all addicted to.

Emily Sullivan

Age 11



Understanding Obama through ‘2016’

I found the movie “2016” to be profoundly factual and interesting. Amazingly, I felt no emotion for or against Obama after leaving the movie. I see him as less of a “bad” guy because I now understand him much better. Before the movie, and for the past four years, it’s bothered me that a person is my president and none of us even know who he really is!  

There is no way to change, or factually misrepresent, where Obama was traveling, who he was meeting with, who his family really is, and other “facts” that are obviously correct with regards to those issues.

Interviews with his grandmother, his brother, weaving in exact quotes from Obama’s book “Dreams From My Father,” while becoming informed about his real father’s Communist membership, and his father’s influential Communist friends who helped mold Obama, allows us to better understand what Obama is, in good faith, trying to do to America.

The interviews with noted authors who have spent thousands of hours researching Obama and his friends, and authors who have written the most definitive books available about Obama concerning his history was fascinating! Obama’s vision, and what he really meant by “Change” in 2008 now makes perfect sense!

His actions have spoken loud and clear and certainly verify the movie content is accurate!

Unfortunately, Obama’s America is not the America any of us really want; not even the liberal left who, for some reason, can’t project what they’re in for with four more years of this.  

The three most dangerous dictators in the world, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and Russia’s Putin have now all endorsed Obama. They know for a fact what the movie is trying to help the rest of us see.

Gordon Oswald


Conservatives should vote against Lingle and Crowley

The Akaka Bill threatens to rip apart our people and lands along racial lines. It is the most dangerous federal legislation that ever affected the State of Hawai‘i.  

The Akaka Bill would be so devastating for Hawai‘i that it outweighs national issues like the budget deficit, unemployment and foreign policy as we Hawai‘i conservatives consider how to vote.  Remember Bosnia, Rwanda and Sri Lanka?  Racial separatism and civil war were far more important than economic problems.  

The only reason the Akaka Bill never passed in 12 years is because Senate Republicans blocked it. Gov. Lingle spent eight years pushing the Akaka Bill as her top federal priority. Lingle would work inside her Republican Senate caucus to get them to stop blocking it. But Republicans will ignore Democrat Hirono. Conservatives should hold their noses and vote for Hirono to stop Lingle from going to the Senate.

Kawika Crowley embraces conservative views on economics and foreign policy. But he favors both the Akaka Bill and secession. That’s outrageous. Democrat Gabbard favors the Akaka Bill too, but Republicans will ignore her. Gabbard will win easily, so conservatives who don’t like Gabbard’s liberalism do not need to vote for her to ensure Crowley’s defeat — we can afford a principled “blank” to show we dislike them both.

Republican national and state platforms both strongly oppose the Akaka Bill. Lingle and Crowley have abandoned Republican principles. Conservative Republicans can abandon those candidates without guilt.

Ken Conklin


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  • Groucho posted at 7:24 am on Thu, Nov 1, 2012.

    Groucho Posts: 7

    I came back one week later to see what has transpired since my last comment. I definitely struck a nerve, and I think I proved my point--the birthers came out of the woodwork. Seems odd that Obama's home state should harbor so many of you, but illogic knows no state boundaries. Hard as it is for you folks to face it, it bears saying: it is not racism to point out racism where it exists, sorry if you can't see that in the mirror. If you buy Romney's preposterous fictions for fixing America, you either lack a high school diploma or you are willfully wanting to support reverse-Robin-Hoodism.

  • notahippi posted at 11:08 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

    notahippi Posts: 504

    jzwiebel.....I usually do not agree w/ your comments...but I did sign your repeal Act 55 PLDC

    I am trying to find out (before the election) who is really against this bill....I know for sure Ku alli
    is against it....I'm thinking Jay, Dickie and Tim....
    I know Looser is against it but I won't vote him....

  • Richard Godbehere Jr posted at 10:44 am on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

    Richard Godbehere Jr Posts: 1

    Guess that depends upon which persona you wish to believe now doesn't it?

    Me I don't believe AdamnThing until I see hard evidence.

    Irrefutable original documents would set this all to rest... so why not just do it and be done with it?

    Personally I don't care one way or the other, all I seek is the truth that is irrefutable.

    Should something be amiss then proper reactions need taken... much like those as Lance Armstrong is experiencing.

    Otherwise it is as it is... bid deal there with one exception... Irrefutable Proof!

    You'd think the affirmation of irrefutable truth if it is so easy to produce would have a great allure to it... One can only ponder as to reasons why one would drag their heels so hard otherwise.

    It doesn't make logical sense unless there is something to hide.

    Pete, what will you do if Romney wins ??

    At your age you might end up pushing Daisies under a Romney tenure... Does that bother you?

    Or is it all those Supreme Court Justices that could be appointed under a Mormon Republican President that bothers you even more?

    Oh my Gawd... the horrors of it all...

    What oh what will you do if Romney wins ??


  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 4:06 am on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    Pete, what will you do if Romney wins??

  • PeteAntonson posted at 7:52 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    PeteAntonson Posts: 2462



  • Richard Godbehere Jr posted at 1:43 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Richard Godbehere Jr Posts: 1

    You shouldn't jump to conclusions... I'm just having fun with it.......

    & OMG it is fun...

    I'm waiting for the ones that go nutzo over it...

    But I can't help but notice when I'm on Oahu at my cousins homes to notice their birth certificates with those darling foot prints they have on them on display between those first pair of now bronzed baby shoes and wonder why Obama's lack them (the foot prints?)

    What's with that?

    The absence of the prints?

  • anakamaiguy posted at 12:34 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    anakamaiguy Posts: 5

    If memory serves me (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong), Gordon Oswald once wrote a lengthy commentary about just how easy the slaves had it here in America. According to Oswald, they had their food, shelter and medical care taken care of by their kind and generous "owners" in exchange for performing simple tasks. Why anyone would agree with or defend his latest comments is beyond me. As for RGGJR's never ending commentary, just consider the source.

  • posted at 7:38 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.


    I'm glad to see you finally came out of the closet as a Birther, Richard.
    You must feel much better now.

  • Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts posted at 7:21 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Regular Guy Giving Just Retorts Posts: 941

    Well speaking of books and imagining...

    Hmm, hmm I wonder is it true or false that someone lied before or after...

    Were they schooled to cease and desist to form a better story?

    How come lil Obama's certificate lacks those so ever prevalent baby footprints like all my cousins have on their "Genuine Birth Certificates" born on Oahu before and after the time of Obama's birth? I guess he was "SPECIAL!"

    And back to books where any one can find with a google search about this:

    Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.
    The booklet, which is thirty-six pages long, is printed in blue ink (and, on the cover, silver/grey ink), using offset lithography. It purports to celebrate the fifteenth anniversary of Acton & Dystel, which was founded in 1976.

    If walks like one... If it sounds like one... If it constantly lies like one...

    It is one!

    A LIAR

    Spinning new ones everyday...

    This November 8 you can vote for your President that smells so bad his initials are BO...

    That's right on the Eighth day of November...

    VOTE on 11/8/2012 for Obama!

  • tooindependent posted at 9:46 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    tooindependent Posts: 271

    Because of the simple fact that Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon gets my vote. You say "really Steve are you kidding me"... When I was a kid I grew up in a tract neighborhood. To the left, right, and rear of my house was Dedicated Mormon families with lot's of kids.

    The experience of growing up with these families as neighbors and friends I'll always reflect back to because of the kind of people they were. They didn't smoke, drink coffee, do drugs,.... Lying is a cardinal sin, no foul mouths, no stealing , respect neighbors regardless how they may treat you.

    They were different, but one thing was for sure they set examples for what good honest people and families they were. Mitt Romney and his family fit the exact profile of those families and I'm confident that Mitt Romney wil exercise his dedicated character to get our country back on trac Amen

  • PeteAntonson posted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    PeteAntonson Posts: 2462

    A part of D'Souza's book was actually a cover story for Forbes Magazine back in 2010. Forbes Magazine is, by any fair description - including their own, a politically conservative source of information. It is important then, when John Tamny, Forbes Staffwriter, reminding us throughout that he does not like the President's policies, writes a review vetting the movie "2016" and finding it to be nothing more than propaganda and a string of falsehoods. He does this in some detail at:


    You do not "let your side down" by not defending or not promoting this propaganda. If it scores your side points you can simply accept them; the same as if your favorite team scores on an umpire's bad call. However, if you disingenuously claim "factual" what has been shown to be false and what D"Souza self-describes to be "imagined," then you harm your, and your side's, credibility.

  • southsidesurf posted at 6:12 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    southsidesurf Posts: 0

    Kip, democracy in America has been dead for quite some time. Where have you been? It's not quite eyeryone for themselves yet, but it's time to start preparing for the next phase if you plan on you and your family sticking around for much longer.

  • posted at 5:46 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.


    BTW, Realitydose/Rightisright, given that you're so "successful" and worldly-wise, why are you still a coward hiding behind a screen name?

    Everyone knows my name, and Pete's, and Bettejo's, and Dakine's, and JZweibel's, and RGGJR's, and Islander's, and Jason's, and Lew's, Mr. B's, and ...

    Yet you continue to cowardly hide behind your various screen names. Why? Why don't you tell us who you are? Is it because you're really not so "successful" at all? Because you're actually a 15-year-old kid who can't get a date because your face is covered with pimples and the other kids make fun of you because you hop like a frog?

    C'mon, "Mr. Successful," drop the screen and tell us who you are. Or, remain a coward; I guess it suits you.

  • interesting posted at 5:45 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    the more interesting question is whether the both of you beleive what you say. i'll admit i do not know

    -- mormons dont use public welfare

    -- the guy who was a community organizer, state rep, and us senator - he has no CV to speak of

    i could go on, but you get the point.

    best i can figure, its just a string of things thrown up against the wall (which is fine; one has to work with what they have). but clearly there is a subculture that would bets its childrens eyes on it. very strange

  • dakine posted at 5:14 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    dakine Posts: 611

    Whee...Hanapepe UCC...United Church of Christ. They are an open, affirming and welcoming denomination as per their published polity. They are the church of the POTUS. Recent events caused me to re-evaluate my perceptions and commitment to this particular church. More importantly, I suppose, is that I now feel the same as I did 12 years ago...organized religion is more harmful than helpful. If UCC congregations can screw up that badly, then there's little hope. Keep in mind, however, that every UCC congregation is independent and does not necessarily represent the whole of UCC. I'm just fed up with the politics.

  • posted at 4:56 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.


    Dakine ... if you don't mind ... what denomination are you talking about? As I remember, it was a church/fellowship of some kind in ... Hanapepe ... right?

  • posted at 4:52 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.


    Mark, it may be that 97% of African Americans are simply smarter than you, rather than racist.

  • posted at 4:51 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.


    Rightisright (formerly Realitydose) is fond of telling us how "successful" Romney is, and implying, or stating directly, that anyone voting for President Obama must be "unsuccessful" in his business life and demanding of free stuff. Well ... here we have 80 of the most Successful folks in the country -- CEOs of 80 major companies ... saying that we have to BOTH cut spending AND RAISE TAXES to get the deficit under control. Fascinating, huh? http://www.kgw.com/news/business/175958131.html

  • dakine posted at 4:45 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    dakine Posts: 611

    Good move. No matter how one tries to spin it, this was a raw deal from the start.

  • onegeaeme posted at 4:44 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5743

    Have I told you lately how much I love you?

    Think: in the two years I've been in this whatever, we've never heard the words peace or love from the far right except when they were trying to dam me to he**, or haul me-kicking & screaming- back into the barn. They're as hateful as the god of the Old Testament they worship.

    Thoughts on the subject: If there was a Jesus-there's no historical proof-for the most part he was a pretty good guy-often misquoted- I think we might become more like the good human he was than worship his dreadful father. None of his thoughts are original, but I think-if there was such a person-he quoted them at a time they needed to be heard.

    I find it fascinating that the Roman Emperor-who invented the silly stuff-took on the trappings of the Pope-the head honcho on earth with his finger on the red phone. Even today he has a direct wire. The teaching of the humble Jewish man gets lost in the shuffle.

    Peace and love Bettejo Dux


  • onegeaeme posted at 4:03 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5743

    Thanks ELAINE. let us hpe we outnumber them. That those sitting on the fence see the real danger in a republican win. Whatever else, the Democrats haven't sold their soul to these bas*ards.

    That's another reason they hate him. Michelle, too. They fear & despise intelligent women. They despised Hillary but bellied up to Paula Jones & Monica Lewinsky. The hypocrisy, the hate... Sometime you doubt they're human. Certainly they've lost all human qualities. They simply cannot hold their lies, deceits, messed up minds together. What we've witnessed on this line for almost two years is what they are. Sick. Sick. Sick.

    ELAINE, I don't know if there's a God. i don't need one & I certainly don't need some Oswal crippled minds telling me what to do, whom to vote for, what to believe.

    He** awaits the chattel who jump the fence. Dare think for themselves. Let me tell them this: if your heaven exists to spend all eternity with you would be he**.

    Peace and love Bettejo Dux


  • Tiger Fan posted at 4:03 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Tiger Fan Posts: 0

    Bettejo, I wasn't referring to you when I mentioned a hidden agenda. Disagree about your opinion of conservatives though. But, again, that's just your opinion and you're entitled to it.

    Still looking forward to having that glass of wine with you some day. Would be a hoot.

    Have a great day in paradise. Aloha Y'all.

  • dakine posted at 3:18 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    dakine Posts: 611

    Very good comments, BJ. Right on all counts. Before I go further...I pulled out of the congregation of 12 years I have been with because of the sort of xenophobic, behind-the-back "stuff" that caused me to give up on organized religion just before I came here. The present folks seemed to walk their talk. I decided to give it one more chance. They proved recently that it is window dressing. I will no longer be a part of that hypocrisy.

    As you're aware, BJ, I feel that not all persons who hold a belief in some sort of higher power (I don't even like using the word God) are idiots. I also feel that most atheists are really quite intelligent, decent people, moral, and (as you) good friends and allies in social justice. My problem is with the sort of thing that is oozing out of the GOP today (as from a diaper), and that it would most definitely lead to a theocracy just as narrow, misguided, and evil as those in the Middle East. As you say, there are no good theocracies.


  • jzwiebel posted at 2:45 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    jzwiebel Posts: 5

    I am introducing legislation to repeal Act 55 and will co-sponsor other Legislator's bills to do the same.


    Rep. Cynthia Thielen

  • rightisright posted at 2:26 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    rightisright Posts: 9

    Dear Groucho,

    You are the racist! Don't like that successful white guy running against your failed black dude one bit, do you. Must drive you crazy!

  • rightisright posted at 2:23 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    rightisright Posts: 9

    Wow - just checked in to get my comic reliief for the day by listening to the left "gentlepeople".

    dakine, Kathmandude, Interesting, Groucho! You've rung the funny bone bell !!!

    I saw 2016 twice and also found much of it to be "factual."

    It's a matter of fact and record what countries and when Obama went there.

    It's a matter of record his father was a card carrying Communist.

    it's a matter of record Obama's God Father was a well known Communist leader in the U.S.

    It's a matter of record Obama's book is titled "Dreams From My Father" not Dreams of My Father etc. He must have the same dreams from his father??? Duh???

    These are all indisputable "facts". The very telling quotes from Obama's book are accurate "facts". "It's ok under some circumstances to tax companies 100%??? " Obama said that in his own book!!!

    The other telling direct quotes from his book are absolutely factual and should make traditional Americans shutter!

    These are the facts girls!

    You are sooo funny!

  • onegeaeme posted at 2:07 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5743

    ELAINE, i know you're a woman of the cloth. You know I'm a devout non-believer. I know you're one of the brightest on the line.

    You wrote once about Pakistan & the Islamic faith. Pakistan is an Islamic theocracy. Do you think an American theocracy-riddled with religious right wingnuts-would be any better?

    Theocracy in America? Endless wars, xenophobia, homophobia, mysogyny, poverty, stupidity, fear, guit, sin...a deep dish pie of worms & snakes & make believe goblins.

    The religious right feeds on poverty, stupidity. Speaks to it. Poor, miserable, stupid-kept stupid-cannon foddering, church going idiots & *swald minds.

    Chattel vote as their masters order. They believe what they're told. They parrot. They whimper & whine, sing "The gray faced old men with two dollar haircuts." Breed like rabbits. Cook & clean.

    There are occasional benevolent dictatorships. Excellent, well-managed socialistic democracies. There are no good theocracies. None.

    Peace/ love Bettejo Dux


  • Islander posted at 1:40 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Islander Posts: 38

    I am running out of patience with those who say that anyone who isn't an Obama fan is racist. That is nonsense, and I think you know it.

    Since you brought up the subject of racism, I mentioned another example of racism, in which I provided statistical evidence. I didn't just throw out meaningless accusations like you did.

    You expect us to believe that Obama is not white enough for Dinesh to accept? Dinesh's skin is probably darker than Obama, depending on who has been in the sun more.

    Interesting how you bring up your anti-Christian bigotry into this discussion, while I have been talking about things like how to get out of this terrible recession and how to avoid a catastrophic budget disaster. One side wants to be bigots and the other side wants to fix this mess.

  • onegeaeme posted at 1:40 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5743

    Hidden agenda my foot, LEW. Everyone on this site knows where I stand on this. Sexist? Nonsense. I'm not chattel if that fries your fa**y.

    I'm now going to respond to ELAINE, dakine. Read what I have to say to her...

    Peace and love bettejo Dux


  • Tiger Fan posted at 12:30 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Tiger Fan Posts: 0

    Let me see if I've got this correct - - Bettejo wants everyone to vote for a Woman (Democrat of course). That's Sexism. Groucho stated that if you oppose Obama then you're a Racist. Can't anyone just have a if fervent opinion without having a hidden agenda?

    Geaux Tigers

    Have a great day in paradise. Aloha Y'all.

  • onegeaeme posted at 12:00 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5743

    I don't buy good vs evill. i do buy sane vs insane. Reasoning intelligent minds vs *swald minds.

    *swald minds will be out in force in this election. The best & the brightest better make a good showing. We stand together as human beings. As good Americans. We don't need bible studies to teach us what to think. how to vote.

    Many of you have minds as good as EMILY SULLIVAN. Use them. Please use them.

    So many of you think religion plays no part in this election. Trust me: it plays a huge part. No republican could be voted to office without the support of the religious right. Nixon & Reagan knew this. Reagan bought the religious right-which often didn't vote or 'believe' in voting-by promising Pat Robertson he'd deliver a bible to every resident in the country. i was there. Told the young gov/thumper who offered me the book. "Thanks but no thanks. I've several but I doe't participate in political religious pandering. Theocracy isn't my style."

    Peace and love Bettejo Dux


  • Groucho posted at 11:40 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Groucho Posts: 7

    I don't know who's complaining about racism in today's discussion, Islander, it certainly wasn't me. I used that term deliberately to strongly imply that when you sift away the preposterous tripe that is anti-Obama "facts", when you look at all his political positions and legislative proposals that were once popular among the GOP once-upon-a-time until they were proposed by a black president, and when the opposition routinely lies about his record of accomplishment thus far, then there's precious little to find about why people virtulently oppose him. They aren't "comfortable" with him. Why? Romney is a vacuous, unprincipled greed machine. I'll take the cautious man who is presently in the office any day and twice on Sundays compared to the field of embarrassing plutocrats, snake-oil salesman and hypocritical Bible-thumpers that is the present-day GOP.

  • posted at 11:03 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.


    Thank you for the suggestion, DayDreamer (I believe another reader mentioned the idea a few weeks ago). I'm not sure our "system" will allow for that sort of thing but I'll check with the Webmaster.    sm

  • RGGJR posted at 10:54 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    RGGJR Posts: 1076

    Wouldn't the thumbs up or down constitute a form of abuse?

    How many accounts do you have to vote with?

    Me... I'm not telling...

    But Kathmandude knows the answer...

    BTW... He has a scream of a waffle recipe he needs to share in here too.

  • Islander posted at 10:52 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Islander Posts: 38

    Interesting how Obama's resume was practically empty and 96 to 97% of African Americans in America voted for him.

    Many African Americans are pro-life, Obama is not. There are a whole lot of reasons not to vote for Obama. Why did they all vote for Obama? Clearly they voted for him because of his race, which is racism.

    I am white and my lovely wife is not white, so don't call me a racist. I am not opposed to non-white Presidents. I would not mind it if one of my non-white children could be President some day.

    But, I am opposed to racism. And the voting record of African Americans is statistical evidence that, as a group, they are racist.

    If they want to be racist, I guess they are free to be that way. But, they should not complain about racism. It is just hypocrisy.

  • onegeaeme posted at 10:46 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5743

    ...that's "I've never never never agreed wiih with *swald. Never will.

    Love you EMILY SULLIVAN.

    Signature coming up JOHN.

    Kip, don't give up hope. If anyone can pull us out of this mess it will be that brilliant young man in the White House. We're a strong, good people. We need a strong, sane, reasoning, brilliant young man running the show.

    Think deranged *swald mind-coconut amygdala - in that position & feel very faint. Get out there and vote. Democrat all the way. The best and the brightest are on the left. Always were and always will be. That's why they fear them.. We need more brilliant minds like EMILY SULLIVAN. She gives us hope. There is hope.

    Peace and love Bettejo Dux


  • onegeaeme posted at 10:31 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    onegeaeme Posts: 5743

    I'm so impressed with EMILY SULLIVAN'S letter!! Thank you, EMILY. A lovely young mind & wouldn't it be a little girl! 11!!! WOW!!. I probably won't be hre to watch you grow up but, one thing I know, your bright little mind will grow & sparkle like a diamond in the sky. Your parents must be very proud.

    Then there's Oswald. All of us know he's intelligent. He writes well. He's articulate I've ever agreed with anything he's written. His is the classic mind of the believer. Our row began way back when over religion. I'll bet his amygdala is the size of a coconut. A little joke, the nut in the nut house, "I may be crazy but I'm not stupid," says it all.

    JOHN, as soon as I finish this, I'm signing the petition.

    KIP: beautiful letter. I agree. But: there will either be a republican (Oswald mind) in the White House or a Democrat. The brilliant young man in officei is doing the best he can in a perfectly lousy situation. Give him time. Have hope.

    Peace and Love Bettejo Dux


  • Groucho posted at 9:57 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Groucho Posts: 7

    Dear Gordon,
    I want to put this as politely as possible, because I don't believe in being a troll. Candidly, your acceptance of the racist babble that passes for Obama-biographical scholarship is appalling. Let me re-phrase it another way by quoting the author Frank Herbert: "Fear is the mind-killer." Fear is what conservatives peddle, it's their stock-in-trade. They stoke it to keep the serfs docile. Wake the hell up, Gordon. It's never too late to say "no" to racism.

  • interesting posted at 9:55 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    "I found the movie “2016” to be profoundly factual"

    -- that is legitimately the funniest thing i have heard all day. i mean seriously - what an opener..

  • Islander posted at 9:46 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Islander Posts: 38

    Well said, Happy Accident!

    This is why I have been saying that we need to look at their track record, and not pay too much attention to what they say.

    Look at the track records. Obama: executed a big power grab by Washington D.C. in health care. Failed to get the economy growing or reduce the deficit. He is good at taking freedom away from others, very bad at creating jobs or controlling spending.

    Romney: sometimes conservative, sometimes liberal, but almost always very successful in any project he undertakes.

  • Islander posted at 9:36 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Islander Posts: 38

    I decided to go ahead and write a letter to the editor, along these lines.

  • DayDreamer posted at 9:30 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    DayDreamer Posts: 140

    Hey GI - why can't we have a thumbs up and thumbs down button on the comments sections along with the abuse button?

  • RGGJR posted at 8:51 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    RGGJR Posts: 1076

    Dang the way everyone is going off on this movie just might get me to go buy the $tup|d thing yet...

    only opine I have is... it can't all be lies... it can't all be true...

    Provocative seems to sum this one up... like most movies are!

  • Islander posted at 8:45 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Islander Posts: 38

    Re: Albizias, using them for fuel requires growing them in large forests on purpose. This leads to more invasion of the species, not less. The Hawaiian Mahogany company planted hundreds of acres of albizia. Now, they are taking over our neighborhood as well, since we are downwind, and the seed pods are blown by the wind. These invasive albizias are difficult to harvest because they are growing next to houses, fences, electric wires, etc.
    Not only are we now overrun by albizias. Soon we will be breathing the smoke from the operation.
    It can cost over $1,000 to remove just one of these unwanted trees. There is no way you can make up that $1,000 by burning that one tree and making electricity.
    Albizias may sound good, but the overall impact is negative. Maybe we should require those who grow albizias on purpose to pay for the removal of all the albizia descendants downwind. This would bring some economic reality to this terribly invasive species.

  • Happy Accident posted at 8:13 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Happy Accident Posts: 473

    The reason Obama hasn’t acted true to his communist leanings is that he knows if he were honest and outspoken about them, he’d never get elected. Of course, this can also be said about some on the right as well. We truly never know who we elect as they are all actors and our nation a stage.

  • Kathmandude posted at 8:03 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Kathmandude Posts: 103

    Why am I not surprised that an eleven-year-old girl can write a more thoughtful and intelligent letter than a grown man? Emily, very nicely done. Gordon, well, I'm not exactly certain what to say about yours, except I'm glad you found the movie to be "profoundly factual" and "interesting." Wouldn't want to see you wasting your money.

    Steven McMacken


  • dakine posted at 6:56 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    dakine Posts: 611

    Gordon...I'm disappointed. Although we often do not agree on some things, I took you to be more intelligent than your letter implies. I cannot believe that you would take so much of that film as being "truth." I have seen it, and would give it an A+ for cinematography and slick delivery, but an F for veracity. BTW...I'm not a Democrat...but I would, given the present composition of the group, never call myself a Republican either. The sort of hateful, condescending, male chauvinist, aggressive, lying, and basically racist tripe that I'm hearing from that sector makes one wonder just what kind of world we'd end up in if they won. I'm guessing it would be WWIII.

  • alien posted at 5:09 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    alien Posts: 341

    Good vs Evil who will win?


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