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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:45 pm

Birds need our help, not our hate

I was born and raised in Honolulu. In 1979 I moved to Kaua‘i as I watched my childhood home covered with concrete. I wanted to live in an environment closer to nature.

The braying call of the Newell’s shearwaters flying towards their nesting sites mauka always thrills me. Like the first kolea to return from their nesting time in Alaska, I always noted the first shearwaters call in spring. Their call in the early mornings as they headed seaward to find fish for their young told me that dawn was coming.

Like the stars they are a part of the changing of the seasons in Hawai‘i. I think of them valiantly seeking food at sea to bring back to their young in their burrows.

Then this year I got scared. Instead of dozens of calls every night, I am hearing only one or two — four at the most — flying over my home in Wainiha. We don’t have bright lights nor many powerlines in our valley that usually account for downed shearwaters.

Is it the lack of fish at sea? I have been told that they will not return to land to breed if there’s not enough food in the sea to raise their single chick. Are pigs and rats and feral cats wiping out their nests? The adults leave their nestlings for the last 10 days before they fledge which makes them extremely vulnerable to predators.

So it was with interest that I read the Associated Press article that appeared in Sunday’s paper. I am glad that it has brought light to the plight of the shearwaters. However, the sentiments expressed by some of those attending a football game baffled and saddened me.

How can someone say that the county chose the bird over the keiki? How can the inconvenience and discomfort to having to hold football games during the day outweigh saving the lives of endangered seabirds? (As a friend pointed out, their football practice is held during the afternoons after school.)

And the comment that we don’t have much to offer our kids on Kaua‘i except Friday night football — “And then they took that away from us.” — makes me shake my head. What about surfing, hunting, fishing, boogie boarding?

What has happened to the sense of reverence for the land: malama ‘aina? How have we gone from a community that for decades has taken pride in caring for downed shearwaters to people wearing T-shirts that say “Buck the firds”? What kind of world are we moving towards where we can’t be inconvenienced for the sake of another species’ survival?

I decided to volunteer for Save Our Shearwaters this fall. Recently, I rode with the person picking up birds at the aid stations along the north and east shores. At the first aid station someone had scribbled “Up You A$$” on the board where people are meant to note the location where the bird was found. We picked up one bird at nine stations. It was the first she’d picked up since the season began over a month ago. Last year they were picking up 20 a day. We took the bird in for rehab. With luck it will get stronger and return to sea to live its full life.

These birds need our help not our hate. They are the proverbial canary in the coal mine; their fate presages our own. Yet most Kaua‘i residents seem oblivious to how precious our native plants and animals are; that we live in what is often referred to as the extinction capitol of America because so many of our native species are in peril.

I wonder if it is a matter of education. Konrad Lorenz, a Nobel laureate who studied animal behavior, wrote: “...there are fewer and fewer adults devoted to nature. Fewer and fewer hours of the curriculum are directed to biology. Often biology has become the least important course in high school. People simply don’t believe that they will be in dire straits in a hundred years because of their lack of understanding in this area. The situation is already very serious. Most little boys easily recognize a make of car — no matter how similar cars are they can distinguish them perfectly — but don’t know what kind of bird is flying past.”

Kathy Valier, Wainiha

Do your homework, Sierra Club

In regards to your environmental endorsement of Neil Abercrombie: If you have access to a computer please go online and read about the Abercrombie Peterson Bill introduced in 2008 and cosponsored by Mr. Abercrombie.

It proposed lifting the offshore drill moratorium to allow drilling for natural gas within 25 miles of land. Natural gas is a fossil fuel, drilling is drilling.

The theory was that America could produce its own fossil fuel with out having it imported. There is nothing environmental, green or sustainable about laying 420 trillion cubic feet of pipe in, over and under our land and ocean.

Fortunately, Mr. Abercrombie chose to vote against his own bill and it died.

In 2007 the Sierra Club warned Congress and Mr. Abercrombie of the potential dangers to our environment if the moratorium on drilling in the Outer Continental Shelf were to be lifted. Sierra Club, do your homework.

Stuart and Mika Hollinger, Kilauea

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49 comments:

  • kealohi posted at 1:18 pm on Fri, Oct 29, 2010.

    kealohi Posts: 194

    Rediclueless: It has come up that at Vidinha the word was that there were 30 or more dead birds.. THATS WHY I USED VIDINHA. Now as far as Kapaa Field. It wouldn't be my friends as you say it would of been the person in charge of parks & recreation to do it right back then. So that goes back to the fact that these Day Games are all about Politics. I'm figuring from your opinions that you do know who was on Top back around the time that Field was being Built, Right?

     
  • rediclueless posted at 9:25 am on Fri, Oct 29, 2010.

    rediclueless Posts: 29

    Kealohi they are talking about all three football stadiums not just Vidinha. They need to make it all day game not just Kauai High School gets to have night games. Why don't you ask you County or State worker friends why they didn't install the required lighting in the New Kapaa field as they were building it. If I recall correctly it was built AFTER 2005. Now its gonna cost more tax payer money to fix the lights at that field.

     
  • kealohi posted at 10:52 pm on Thu, Oct 28, 2010.

    kealohi Posts: 194

    Have any of you ever talked to any of the County or State workers who have worked for years & years at the stadiums or parks? Ask them for Facts... Not one bird went down by Vidinha within the last 15+ years... So now what? Taking words from "environmentalist" who do "their" research or the people who first hand would have to clean a mess up (If had one)...

     
  • AiMoKea posted at 7:07 pm on Thu, Oct 28, 2010.

    AiMoKea Posts: 549

    Good question regarding wire cages. I would like to believe somebody has thought of this before and maybe studied it's feasibility... it just seems like a good idea if done right and doubt it would be super expensive considering the intentions.

    Here's a little irony... my grandfather (electrical engineer) designed and installed the first outdoor sports lighting at Wrigley Field, or, to be more correct, the original Wrigley Field that was in L.A., in 1930. (yet as a descendant of that, I would like to see a way to protect the shearwaters)

     
  • bpeyton posted at 10:17 am on Thu, Oct 28, 2010.

    bpeyton Posts: 1653

    Interesting idea AiMoKea. I wonder what the players would say now if asked if they want to go back to night games, even though it means shearwaters will die. But doesn't putting wire "cages" around the lights solve the problem. Is that too expensive to do? And I still can't figure out why the lights were on during the farm fair, which wasn't even using the playing field.

     
  • scandalous posted at 3:32 pm on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    scandalous Posts: 51

    [quote]Nicolai said: "Everybody is so angry. Anger makes people loose their rationality, a concern for the other, and a general sense of decency. There really is no point in trying to argue or debate with angry people. It's like the superferry. You need to wait for them to calm down, and think about things on their own pace.So take a deep breath... "[/quote]

    I like this idea best.

    I love reading the comments here and enjoy intellectual debate. Even not so intellectual debate is fun to read...but all the hatred and name calling is very disappointing. It's good to be passionate about issues but why does that mean you have to put someone else down to get your point across?

    Just my 2 cents. Carry on...

     
  • AiMoKea posted at 3:15 pm on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    AiMoKea Posts: 549

    I am personally having a little trouble deciding on what I think is right approach regarding the shearwaters and the night games. I already know that I do believe in giving the kids something meaningful to do at night is important and that we may want to be cautious of "letting" them play in the hot afternoon sun. I also think we have a responsibility to try and protect the shearwaters, just like anything else since we don't have the right to assist in wiping out any species for our own "comfort". Meanwhile, something crossed my mind that made me start looking at things from a different perspective... What would happen if at the end of a night game, the stadium were immediately searched for fallen birds, have them collected and brought to the center of the field to show all the players and ask them, "Here is the price you must pay, what do YOU want?" Just curious...

     
  • alohaaloha posted at 2:57 pm on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    alohaaloha Posts: 43

    Everytime I think of a stupid bird flying toward a light and knocking itself out, I laugh.

     
  • MarkBB posted at 2:37 pm on Wed, Oct 27, 2010.

    MarkBB Posts: 451

    billyjoebob
    I guess I was a partly serious about the radioactive tunnel, partly joking. But mostly, I just wanted to see what others think. They use sniffing dogs now, I believe. But maybe there is a way to reduce the chances of an invasive species, while posing a minimum danger to humans.

     
  • payback posted at 11:14 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    payback Posts: 1711

    Now Fird Bucker, that’s not very nice to our feathered friends.
    Can’t we allow for both football and firds?

     
  • bpeyton posted at 9:51 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    bpeyton Posts: 1653

    Aliens are probably immune anyway.

     
  • billyjoebob posted at 9:05 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    billyjoebob Posts: 1285

    [quote]MarkBB said: "BillyjoeBy using the word “alien,” I meant some animal that does not already live here. Maybe that was not a good choice of wording. Or, do you have some other concern with my comment?"[/quote]

    My first sentence was meant as light humor.
    The thread today could certainly use some.

    My second sentence was meant to mean that, yes, the wording may have been a poor choice, not very thought out, just kind of thrown out there. Uh, other then that I have no concern with your comment.
    Should I?

    Like you, just stating my opinion.


     
  • Firdie Buck posted at 9:00 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Firdie Buck Posts: 2

    LETS START SAVING THE HAWAIIANS!!!!

     
  • Firdie Buck posted at 8:57 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Firdie Buck Posts: 2

    This is crazy...putting a bird before a child. Playing football is a positive way to guide your child thru this game of life. You will not understand what these players go thru unless you have a child that plays KIF football. You can't begin to compare practice to a game. It is simple sense that a team will always put out more at a game then during practice.Players need to take extra care in being hydrated before a game. I can't believe that adults see nothing wrong with 14, 15, 16 and 17 year old boys playing their all out in this heat so that a few birds can be saved!! "Save the bird people" should seriously go out into the ocean and see just how many of their almost dead birds are flying around out there!I guess you want to save these birds, so they will one day become doctors, lawyer, farmers and bankers and be able to take care of the kupuna in the future. Maybe we can use the feathers from these birds to make umbrellas to keep us cool during the 2011 KIF football season.GET REAL!

     
  • MarkBB posted at 8:37 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    MarkBB Posts: 451

    Billyjoe
    By using the word “alien,” I meant some animal that does not already live here. Maybe that was not a good choice of wording. Or, do you have some other concern with my comment?

     
  • billyjoebob posted at 8:26 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    billyjoebob Posts: 1285

    [quote]MarkBB said: "Cont.Maybe we can have some kind of radioactive tunnel that all containers must come through, that will either kill or sterilize any alien creature inside. I admit, though, I am not very knowledgeable on these issues. Maybe you guys can fill me in. "[/quote]
    I'm sure Mr.Alien ( screen name ) wouldnt' appreciate this tunnel.
    Gotta say this is kind of an off the wall statement.

     
  • MarkBB posted at 8:18 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    MarkBB Posts: 451

    One more thought,
    Where I walk my dog near shipwreck on the south shore, there are many shearwaters nesting in the ground. My dog weighs about 12 pounds and has been well-trained not to bother birds. However, if someone came along with a bigger dog that was loose, the dog could wipe out the entire population at one time. These birds are a priceless addition to our island and we need to be careful.

     
  • Emerald posted at 8:16 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Emerald Posts: 1037

    Response to Alfred at 9:23 a.m.:
    Alfred refers to “environmental whakos”...
    .
    To Alfred: if you are infected with the mainland sickness, go back to the mainland.
    For those who enjoy sanity, embrace of our native environment is what will save this planet.
    .
    This sacred garden is not for those who celebrate its destruction.

     
  • MarkBB posted at 8:06 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    MarkBB Posts: 451

    Cont.
    Maybe we can have some kind of radioactive tunnel that all containers must come through, that will either kill or sterilize any alien creature inside.
    I admit, though, I am not very knowledgeable on these issues. Maybe you guys can fill me in.

     
  • MarkBB posted at 8:05 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    MarkBB Posts: 451

    Kimo,
    I enjoyed your first comment on top.
    I am one of the first to warn against losing our freedoms to gov’t tyranny by the greenies. However, we do need to be careful about the wild animals around here. The turtles seem to be doing well. The seals seem to do much better here where there are people around than in the NW islands where they are losing population. But, they don’t need 50 or 100 feet of space on the beach. They are not stupid. Give the seals 10 or 20 feet of beach space and they will be fine.
    What really concerns me is people bringing in alien species in some container, like the brown snake that destroyed Guam. If that happened here, the loss would be priceless. We should have high security on this island to prevent it.

     
  • rediclueless posted at 7:06 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    rediclueless Posts: 29

    So Kauai you say "Buck the Firds" but "save the whales"? It's not the birds or the kids fault. It the parents. You voted for this county government who did nothing for 5 years to protect the birds and now the kids have to pay for it. You say that it's too hot to play or watch day games but pop warner games are day games and parents will sit there for multipule games in one day to watch their play in different age groups. Don't say that kids turn to drugs cause there's nothing else to do. It the lack of disipline and education that leads them to make worong decisions. Spend more time with your kids. Take them bowling, to the movies etc. Everytime there is something new for the kids the bad seeds ruin it for the good ones. Teach your children to respect the enviroment and people. Drugs are all over this island. in fact night and day games are a haven for drug dealers meeting kids without parental supervision. So day games bring out less teens = less teens buying drugs at the games.

     
  • notahippi posted at 5:50 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    notahippi Posts: 526

    To Leftgoleftier,..IF YOU DON'T CARE TO HEAR LOCAL PEOPLE! WHY ARE YOU HERE ON KAUAI? OR IN HAWAII? NOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT PAY OFFS, LOOK NOW FUTHER THAN THE DEMOCRATES OWN GEORGE SOROS!

     
  • notahippi posted at 5:37 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    notahippi Posts: 526

    I have never hated haole, I married one. But how dare you environmentlist come and stop our whole way of life then bad mouth and put us down when we don't show you Aloha! Fri. night football is our community and family lifestyle.It is a healthy way to keep our keiki out of trouble and to cheer them on. I bet soon there will be a rise in teens getting into trouble w/ nothing nothing to do. Our keiki come before birds! BUCK THE BIRDS AND ENVIONMENTILIST To make matters worse they are trying to stop fishing and ban guns (no hunting) We are angry that you want to come live here and make rules and regs for us when you should be cleaning the mess that you made of on the mainland.BETTEJO.. Aiona has always said he was a Catholic. If Abercrombie wins he will dictate his Washington politics and give us more rules, regs and red tape bureaucracies. Like Obama, Fed $ is his answer to everything which means bigger gov. more taxes. VOTE AIONA.

     
  • truth posted at 5:17 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    truth Posts: 301

    I understand your frustration. I just hope that next year, when the games are restored, you will find it in your heart to help the birds again. It's really not their fault.

     
  • WildDog posted at 4:27 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    WildDog Posts: 6

    When I was my young son's age I used to pick shearwater birds up and put them in the designated boxes. Now that I'm a parent who has to drive through traffic in the heat of the day (or go with the other parents at 4 or 5 AM to get to any given 6 AM weigh-in since many of us have children of various age groups and the Pop Warner program had to be pushed back to an earlier schedule), sit in the hot sun (umbrellas, chapstick, sunblock, cap, bottles and bottles of water are of little help under our burning sun), and drive home sometime in the evening exhausted and sleep deprived (take a deep breath) both my son and I have agreed to NOT pick up ANY bird. We whole-heartedly embrace the "buck the firds" idiocracy. Every game has at least one or more heat exhaustion victim of the human variety, the most recent taken by ambulance. I also had to keep from passing out under my umbrella. We are the only island that is required to undertake (pun intended) this and pay for both firds and the bucks.

     
  • WildDog posted at 4:22 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    WildDog Posts: 6

    When I was my young son's age I used to pick shearwater birds up and put them in the designated boxes. Now that I'm a parent who has to drive through traffic in the heat of the day (or go with the other parents at 4 or 5 AM to get to any given 6 AM weigh-in since many of us have children of various age groups and the Pop Warner program had to be pushed back to an earlier schedule), sit in the hot sun (umbrellas, chapstick, sunblock, cap, bottles and bottles of water are of little help under our burning sun), and drive home sometime in the evening exhausted and sleep deprived (take a deep breath) both my son and I have agreed to NOT pick up ANY bird. We whole-heartedly embrace the "buck the firds" idiocracy. Every game has at least one or more heat exhaustion victim of the human variety, the most recent taken by ambulance. I also had to keep from passing out under my umbrella. We are the only island that is required to undertake (pun intended) this and pay for both firds and the bucks.

     
  • Nicolai posted at 3:04 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Nicolai Posts: 177

    Everybody is so angry. Anger makes people loose their rationality, a concern for the other, and a general sense of decency. There really is no point in trying to argue or debate with angry people. It's like the superferry. You need to wait for them to calm down, and think about things on their own pace.

    So take a deep breath...

     
  • Opinions posted at 1:12 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Opinions Posts: 4

    Football/Birds
    Change is hard and both sides have excellent points. It will all settle in time. And unless it's YOUR children out there enduring a football game in today's KAUAI sun, your opinion on this area has no grounds. It is hot. I commend the organizations who spent the $$$ for those side line mist fans . That was really putting the kids first. Perhaps the county can donate/reimburse as peace treaty:)

     
  • Bajingas posted at 12:53 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Bajingas Posts: 38

    Could people please stop comparing high school football to college or pros. saying college and pros play games in the afternoon, so why not them? First off, only 1% of all high school football players make it to the NFL and secondly, those who do make it our some of the most conditioned and skilled athletes out there (excluding most linemen...lol). So to want to compare out H.S. football player to those of a higher level is simply ignorant and unjust.

     
  • leisweet41 posted at 12:19 pm on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    leisweet41 Posts: 3

    Kathy from Oahu, go back to Oahu or move to Gilligans Island. Where you can live in an area far from concrete. Buck the FIRDS, this is crazy.

     
  • Nicolai posted at 11:34 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Nicolai Posts: 177

    [quote]bpeyton said: "Nicolai - Our children need safe activities at night."[/quote]

    I see.

    Well, I'm sorry people are not allowed to play football at night and I hope the county retrofits the lights ASAP.

    I grew up without anything safe to do at night so I understand that part.

     
  • wheeulz posted at 11:34 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    wheeulz Posts: 2420

    I'm going to follow up bpey's 10:54 "work together" message by leaving a message for Bettejo left over from yesterday:

    Bettejo, surely you are intelligent enough to realize that you will NEVER EVER convert ANYone to your point of view when you insist on labeling anyone not in 100 percent agreement with you as a "loon." I am absolutely confident you understand that.

    Do you have any regrets about that? Is your need to display your "poisoned pen" so overwhelming that you are willing to forgo any chance, if you weren't so consistently abrasive, that you might convince even one reader to move even 1 degree in your direction?

    Just curious.

    NO, I do not claim sainthood for myself. But I do not go out of my way to label anyone and everyone who disagrees with me as a "loon" each time I post.

     
  • wheeulz posted at 11:23 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    wheeulz Posts: 2420

    Well said, bpey 10:54.

    If you had the power and the means to resolve this issue in your hands, how would you do it?

     
  • Rebut101 posted at 11:21 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Rebut101 Posts: 44

    Lefty,Lefty,..Lefty
    Carl Rove and groups like his learned that they could not fight against the Democrats in years past for having outside money groups pouring millions of dollars in campaigns. So Rove
    and his collegues said if we can't fight them, then lets join
    them. The problem for the Democrats is that the Repubs are doing it better the the Dems ever had.

    The Democrat Congress passed a bill against such a practice after seeing the success of the Repubs. However, the unions, who of course support the Democrates, were exempted from the law. ???? That is the crux of the Supreme Court's decision to
    strike down the bias law. Now everyone has the equal right to
    do what the Democrats started in the first place.

    Personally, I don't think that kind of practice is right. Candidates should stand on their own. But at least now there
    is a level playing field in the process.

     
  • bpeyton posted at 10:54 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    bpeyton Posts: 1653

    What a stupid argument. Of course our environment is important. We live on this earth and it is in the best interest of all of us to protect it. And of course people (especially our children) and rights and freedoms are important. We need to deal with the importance of all of this. Work together people instead of just bashing heads all the time.
    Alfred - Someone absolutely needs to care for our planet. And conservatives try to take away freedoms just as much as liberals.
    Nicolai - Our children need safe activities at night.

    We can have all these things if we try to work together. Stop condeming any idea that isn't your own and try to find common ground.

    I know. Naive. Fine then. Go on shouting out your own little agenda and putting down everything else and watch everything go to hell.

     
  • albino posted at 10:45 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    albino Posts: 81

    [quote]alohaaloha said: "Birds-- Yes, football practices are held in the afternoon but keep in mind the players wear light clothing and take water breaks as needed. In games their required to wear all the heavy equipment, in the hot burning sun, getting the wind knocked out of them, with little water breaks. There aint much to offer or teens on this island. Yes, they go surfing, fishing and hunting, but speaking from experience, drugs and alcohol is always around those places. Night football games, keeps and kept teens and myself out of trouble. The high-school lifestyle has changed since your day. Teens ARE getting into the drug lifestyle on the island. "[/quote]

    I second that!

     
  • alien posted at 10:41 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    alien Posts: 345

    A hee haw A he haw haw "what came first the chicken or the egg?" A he haw A he he haw " What came first the bird or the stadium lights?" It is very cool in the morning hours 7 am til 10 am.

     
  • jr1956 posted at 10:17 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    jr1956 Posts: 1263

    This letter by Judy Mick of Kailua appeared in today's Honolulu Staradvertiser, I feel this letter says it all.

    "Kauaians selfish about football"

    "I seem to remember not long ago Kauai touting itself as the "preserve the natural environment" island --- expressed by blocking the Superferry. Good points were made.

    What happened to this view when a few football games will be played on Saturdays instead of Friday nights because you are cruelly hurting other living species -- the shearwaters and other young seabirds of your beautiful island?

    Your ancestors would not approve of this selfish position and you are not teaching your children how to live in harmony with their natural surroundings. What a disappointing story to come from the Garden Isle."


    Judy Mick
    Kailua

     
  • Nicolai posted at 10:09 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Nicolai Posts: 177

    [quote]Alfred said: "These "environmental whakos" who put phony claims of bird kills before the health and safety of children are just plain NUTS!"[/quote]

    Alfred, please elaborate how the health and safety are in jepardy. Because people have played sports in the daytime forever. Tradition, I understand. Change, I understand. Even your frustration and outrage, I understand.

     
  • Alfred posted at 9:23 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    Alfred Posts: 43

    This Shearwater/high scvhool football controversy should be very instructive for Kauai's youth... These "environmental whakos" who put phony claims of bird kills before the health and safety of children are just plain NUTS!
    You can see for yourself how their hatred of other humans drives them to rediculous extremes in the name of their religion, "The Environmet"... Teach your children and put liberalism in a museum where it can't destroy our freedoms...
    Mahalo from Kekaha....

     
  • jr1956 posted at 9:09 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    jr1956 Posts: 1263

    I'm still pissed that Neil forced the state to spend $670,000 of taxpayer for a special election when he quit his congressional job.

    Since then a Republican has won Neils old congressional seat, and looks like we might have a Republican Governor too, that would be true Karma.

    James "Kimo" Rosen
    "Chairman to Re-elect nobody, unless there a somebody."

     
  • alohaaloha posted at 7:55 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    alohaaloha Posts: 43

    Birds-- Yes, football practices are held in the afternoon but keep in mind the players wear light clothing and take water breaks as needed. In games their required to wear all the heavy equipment, in the hot burning sun, getting the wind knocked out of them, with little water breaks. There aint much to offer or teens on this island. Yes, they go surfing, fishing and hunting, but speaking from experience, drugs and alcohol is always around those places. Night football games, keeps and kept teens and myself out of trouble. The high-school lifestyle has changed since your day. Teens ARE getting into the drug lifestyle on the island.

     
  • leftygoleftier posted at 6:59 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    leftygoleftier Posts: 307

    The second largest right-wing ad running group in this nation is run by the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas who helped to allow these people unprecedented power by ruling against the best interest of the citizens of the United States and for the interests of enormously wealthy corporations and the handful of mega-wealthy that run them. SERIOUSLY? How this is allowed to happen is utterly mind numbing and why awake and aware citizens are not at the door of the Supreme Court with torches and pitchforks shows how sad, ignorant and apathetic the general populous of America has become in the 280+ years since we last had the guts to cut off the head of tyranny.

     
  • leftygoleftier posted at 6:44 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    leftygoleftier Posts: 307

    simply regurgitating the same garbage.

     
  • leftygoleftier posted at 6:44 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    leftygoleftier Posts: 307

    So we should not vote for Abercrombie and vote for Duke Bologna instead? because two people with an agenda found that Neil didn't vote for something one time? PUHLEEZE. I'm sure Sierra Club weighed the ENTIRE records of both candidates and weighed the ENTIRE record of Neil Abercrombie against the ENTIRE record of Duke bologna before making its endorsement. Picking and choosing one thing and trying to make it representative of a person is why the dorks who wrote the letter today can't be taken seriously. And who decides what letters get printed and what letters don't. I wrote a letter weeks ago that has never run and I've seen a dozen letters filled with right wing political drivel. The editor obviously has a right wing agenda as well. Don't worry editor, Karl Rove and the big money pacs that are trying to buy this election thanks to the Supreme Court allowing endless corporate money into the political arean are already bombarding us daily with lies. We don't need to hear local people

     
  • KiniKauai posted at 6:28 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    KiniKauai Posts: 116

    Well that's one way to be on the right side of the issue, no matter what. Co-sponsor a bill so you can say you introduce it if it passes, and vote against it so you can say you voted against it if it fails.

     
  • alien posted at 5:07 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    alien Posts: 345

    Politics are beautiful. It feeds the human heart.Thanks to everyone who has an opinion.

     
  • jr1956 posted at 12:25 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    jr1956 Posts: 1263

    What's worse buck the Firds or Haole go home?

    We call ourselves the Aloha state? Hawaii is beautiful on the outside but sure lacks heart.

    As far as football games in the daytime, it builds character for the wee ones to sweat a little, the college and NFL players play in mid day sun, just ask our mayor, a former NFL player himself.

    James "kimo" Rosen
    "Chairman to Re-elect nobody"

     
  • jr1956 posted at 12:16 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010.

    jr1956 Posts: 1263

    What's worse buck the Firds or Haole go home?

    We call ourselves the Aloha state? Hawaii is beautiful on the outside but sure lacks heart.

    As far as football games in the daytime, it builds character for the wee ones to sweat a little, the college and NFL players play in mid day sun, just ask our mayor, a former NFL player himself.


    James "kimo" Rosen

    "Chairman to Re-elect nobody"

     

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