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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:45 am

KAPA‘A — A passionate but peaceful group of protesters gathered at the intersection in front of Safeway in Kapa‘a Wednesday afternoon to speak out against genetically modified organisms and the experimental use of pesticides by biotech companies on Kaua‘i.

“We are over it,” said Fern Anuenue, one of approximately 150 demonstrators. “We want (the biotech companies) to be evicted from this land.”

Demonstrators began organizing at Papaya’s Natural Foods around 3 p.m. — signs and banners in hand — before taking to the sidewalk along Kuhio Highway.

Blake Drolson, an organizer of the protest, said several similar demonstrations have been held on Kaua‘i in the past, involving anywhere between 10 and 60 people. None measure up to Wednesday’s event, which featured a group of drummers and a sea of sign waving.

“This is the largest rally by far,” he said, gripping a sign which read “Keep Yo Greedy Hands Off My Genes Pool.”

The rally came less than one month after physicist, philosopher and environmentalist Vandana Shiva spoke to more than 1,100 people in a standing-room-only Kaua‘i War Memorial Convention Hall in Lihu‘e.

In her presentation, Shiva called for the elimination of GMOs on Kaua‘i, often considered ground zero in the fight against companies such as DuPont and Syngenta, which are experimenting with pesticides and genetically engineered seeds on the island’s Westside.   

“Since the Vandana Shiva event, people are fired up,” Drolson said.

Despite being organized in front of Safeway, Drolson said the protest was not against that company or any specific business.

“We’re really out here to win the hearts and minds of all Kaua‘i’s residents,” he said. “We believe it’s in everyone’s best interest to be out here and to promote the transformation of the agriculture on Kaua‘i from GMO to local family farms.”

Drolson said the goal was to raise awareness about what GMOs mean for the island and its people.

Groups such as GMO-Free Kaua‘i, Kaua‘i Rising and ‘Ohana O Kaua‘i were represented at the rally, according to Anuenue, who said the ongoing anti-GMO movement focuses on the toxicity of food, chemical testing and the patenting of life.

While everyone came together to support the same cause and rally against GMOs and the companies behind them, Anuenue said many brought their own individual message.

Banners and signs, some as large as cars, featured messages such as “No Patents on Life,” “Label GMO Now,” “My Food — My Right to Know” and “Kaua‘i is a Chemical Test Site.”

“This is a world movement,” Anuenue said. “We’re going to win this. There’s no going back.”

Drolson said he did not know who was responsible for the recent appearance of anti-GMO graffiti tags along Kuhio Highway and other locations.

“We don’t encourage that,” he said, speaking on behalf of the rally’s organizers. “Breaking the law is going to be seen as disrespectful to the Kaua‘i community.”

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  • PeteAntonson posted at 4:00 pm on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    PeteAntonson Posts: 3150


    If you understood anything about Life in These United States, you would understand about "Due Process." Your movement to destroy something based on gossip heard on the lawn in front of Papayas, instead of through evidence gathered on Kauai, is inherently wrong as at least as immoral as what you believe yourself to be fighting. For example, contrary to local mythology, the Superferry was not "chased away" by hippies swearing at elected officials, it was bankrupted secondary to a Maui Court ruling based on evidence presented in a civil atmosphere by people wearing suits and ties.

  • wiseguy posted at 8:01 pm on Sun, Feb 17, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 22

    Not true. So if you pour a glass of water in your yard, that water will make it to the ocean?

    The chemicals are applied foliar to the plants, not in the soil. The pests are on the plants, wouldn't make much sense to apply them in the soil would it?

    The number one thing that breaks down pesticides is UV rays, which we have an abundance of. The easiest way for something to get to the ocean is for it to be applied during a downpour, when runoff occurs. Kinda the definition of runoff. Wouldn't make much sense to apply then, all of the product would be gone and it would be a waste of time and effort, which in farming makes no sense. Farmers already have enough to do.

    Asphalt and concrete would help with the runoff, like all the petroleum products from our cars on the highway, but fortunately plants don't do so hot on either surface. Try looking at other point source contaminants, like sewage or people poaching fish with bleach. Sediment from construction with no permits would be another.

  • Hamster posted at 6:51 pm on Sun, Feb 17, 2013.

    Hamster Posts: 0

    It would be nice to believe that the seeds they're developing are being created to save the world (If they think they can, then they should do proper testing in a lab, not out in the open). But they're not! they're being developed to sell herbicides/pesticides and make money!

    If you want to feed the worlds hungry with less space and work maybe you should go into the organic permaculture business. I'm sure plenty of good people work for the companies on the west side. There are good people that work in all fields out there, but that doesn't mean that all the employers are morally sound.

    Should we sacrifice the health and ecology of the island for a few jobs? In my opinion NO. There are plenty of Pono jobs to be soundly created on Kauai, they might not all be created tomorrow, but they are being created.

  • Hamster posted at 6:33 pm on Sun, Feb 17, 2013.

    Hamster Posts: 0

    "These chemicals run off our lands into our streams and eventually pollute our oceans, and leave a toxic residue for years to come."

    "Prove it."

    If you understood anything about how water moves through sediment and how the coastal watershed works you wouldn't need any proof. It's simple, pour anything onto or in the soil on Kauai, it will end up in the ocean. So if we have Dupont and Syngenta dumping tons of (new and untested) herbicides/pesticides on their test fields, where do you think it will go?

    Now maybe not all of the chemicals will find their way to the ocean, but with as much and as often as they spray it can't be good. There are plenty of studies linking usage of these type of chemicals to "scarring, death, or reproductive failure in fish, shellfish, and other marine organisms. In addition, they can accumulate in fish tissue, leading to fish consumption advisories. The sensitivity of corals makes them especially vulnerable to the introduction of toxic substances."  -EPA

  • PeteAntonson posted at 5:35 pm on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    PeteAntonson Posts: 3150

    "These crops involve the regular application of a range of toxic, persistent and often ‘restricted use’ pesticides and herbicides."

    "These chemicals run off our lands into our streams and eventually pollute our oceans, and leave a toxic residue for years to come."

    Prove it.

    Where are your runoff numbers, your soil samples? Where is your evidence, your corporate memos? Where are your Kauaian whistleblowers (in the age of whistleblowing)? I'm talking about here on Kauai; not Bumfuddle, India or Diddly Doo, Bangladesh.

    Don't you dare try to sell me with data from IhateGMO.org or touchyfeelyfarmer.com. Do not give me metal amounts that exist naturally in the soil like those Chemtrail loonies.

    Next protest, show up with torches and pitchforks; it's more befitting. You're in the same bed with evangelical evolution deniers; I hope they're not snoring!

    By preaching to one another in the choir, you've lost touch with the need to prove something. Now prove it...put up, or shut up.

  • wiseguy posted at 5:21 pm on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 22

    The paper and this comment board are laden with the anti sentiments on a daily basis. When have you ever read an article in the paper supporting biotechnology?

    As for me I have posted on two occasions prior to this, so it's odd that you would equate that to everyday. It's about time that someone presented the other side, especially when the accusations that are being made have no truth or science to support them.

    Good people work in the seed industry on Kauai. People that are coaches, volunteers, watermen and women, and generally enjoy being outdoors. They would only do things to make the world a better place, which they do on a daily basis.

    There are 7 billion people on our planet and we will have over 9 by 2050. Fewer acres are being farmed, so we need more from less. And the less grows on a daily basis to homes and other urban development.

    Here's a link that shows corn yields with biotech:


  • Ohana O Kaua'i posted at 2:47 pm on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    Ohana O Kaua'i Posts: 0

    The Hawaii State Constitution as well as the Kaua'i General Plan both specifically state that Hawaii's agricultural farm lands must perpetuate sustainable resource management practices. Sustainability is the capacity to endure. Sustainable agricultural practices are those that maintain a balanced, diverse and productive environment over time.

    The present agricultural practices we are allowing to be conducted here on our Islands are the farthest thing from sustainable. If allowed to continue many of our precious natural resources will be compromised. Our soil will be depleated of all biodiversity, our water will be contaminated by a wide variety of disease causing chemicals, and our children will be born with these chemicals already in their blood.

    We as a people need to hold our elected officials accountable to their sworn duty to protect Hawaii's natural resources for the people and to promote a sustainable and self-sufficient Hawaii.

    Ohana O Kaua'i Together we can!

  • wiseguy posted at 1:32 pm on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 22

    Of course the virus will mutate over time. It's a virus and that's what they do. In the meantime, a lot of research has gone into finding conventional lines that are resistant, so if the immunity fails we are prepared.

    Once the virus has mutated, we can use the same biotech approach should a resistant natural line not be found. GM is simply a tool in the toolbox and this time it bought the papaya industry the time to think of other methods for future outbreaks. The Asian markets are now accepting the rainbow (GM) papayas because their scientists are seeing that there are no health threats involved. The EU also released a similar statement this year. The world is beginning to wake up and realize that the proverbial sky is indeed not falling.

  • Akamai Mom posted at 12:34 pm on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    Akamai Mom Posts: 20

    I was so pleased with the up-beat constructive emotions of the crowd of demonstrators. The mix of ethnicities was vibrant at the event and the majority were not transplants.

    Fernygirl, Angela and others, one must just ignore Wise-guy and interesting. Everyday, these two and a few others FLAME the earnest work of the reporters and people who are featured in the paper. We must have compassion for these bored people who entertain themselves by tearing others down. It is hurtful not helpful.

    To anyone who was present, they would clearly see these commentators had no involvement with even driving by the event because they are dead wrong in their observations.

    I applaud the writer of this article for addressing the real concerns. It is also validating to see this community statement featured on the front page of international press.


  • fernnygirl posted at 11:29 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    I am not thankful at all for your GM Papaya! I wish we could take it back but it is a permanent stain on our beautiful fruit. And I guess you haven't heard that the ring spot virus will too adapt and become resistant. Then what? More chemical treadmill?

    And our biggest market was Asia and Japan, right? And now they are finally taking our mutant papaya and they have to be labelled to be sent to Japan, because the Japanese never really wanted them in the first place. They should be labelled here so people know.

    By blessed I know what you're saying, its common, but see I don't perceive it as blessed, I perceive it as spoilt, detached and over consumptive.

    The problem with the world is that we aren't eating local, in season and we are shipping this food, often sprayed and toxic chemicals to some other side of the world because today someone was "blessed" enough to want chicken tonight. Our kupuna knew better than you my friend. I believe they were more blessed.

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:18 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    And here is an article about Mark Lynas that you should read -


    Everyone is entitled to a different opinion - go with whatever resonates with your own common sense and reason I'd suggest - I also suggest you watch genetic roulette - and for a moment entertain the unlikely reality that the corporations profiting billions off this chemical treadmill and gmo expansion actually don't have your health and welfare as their primary objective... imagine for a minute that it is about those profits, maybe for a second you can understand how so many of us feel and see the future -

    Goodluck n Aloha

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:12 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    Yeah - Crop Failures Google 'America Corn and Soy Failure 2012' It's called a drought mixed with almost entirely GMO weak and nutrient deficient crops that are actually MORE susceptible to drought. Yeah I said it. All their marketing about these super crops, is just that - marketing.

    The GMO corn and soy is the food shortage and it's my hypothesis that if it were conventional crops, they wouldnt have failed as extremely. Because the roundup ready, the use of excessive pesticides and chemicals on crops actually doesn't make them stronger but instead makes them weaker and more susceptible to disease and environmental constraints.

    I encourage you to look at the independent studies, not funded by the very marketeers who push and approve their own product, but the independent scientists around the world constantly uncovering more evidence to prove that we dont actually understand everything about the functioning of all biota on Earth and we dont know all the impacts of our chemical treadmill

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:03 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    I guess I did miss your point, and misunderstood what you were saying entirely. To me, your comments appears to suggest that because most things have GMO that there is no need to label because everything is, but the truth is that while most things (average processed foods) do likely have Corn, Soy & Canola. Some don't.

    Furthermore, not all Corn and Canola in things is actually GMO - when you call individual companies, or larger brands (for example Kirkland) they will tell you where they source things and what their farmers use... and sometimes when its corn or canola they are actually sourcing NONGMO varieties.

    It's Soy that's the hardest because ~ 98% in US is GMO so Yes - if it says Soy and doesn't say organic Soy its probably GMO (and many places cant claim GMO free anymore because of cross pollination (pollen drift). So Soy is pretty shot yes - But not everything has soy in it, no? So labelling would help. Also even organic brands totally sneak in GMO! LABELLING IS THE ONLY WAY

  • wiseguy posted at 1:07 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 22

    Crop failures? Where do you come up with this stuff? Check out rainfall amounts for the midwest this past summer. It's called a drought. And thanks to biotech the corn and soy crops in an extreme drought situation out yielded the numbers that their conventional counterparts yielded 15 years ago in non-drought conditions. It has been estimated that had the same drought happened then, the average consumer would be paying $3500 dollars more at the grocery store annually due to the extreme shortage in grains that would have resulted? And yes I read the entire "study" and yes it is flawed. Compare the mice progeny that were fed the two soy diets to mice that got a normal diet (which the study did not do, which is why it is flawed) and you would see that both diets led to a horrible fecundity rate when compared to the norm.

    Here's a link that you should read:

    http://www.marklynas.org/2013/01/lecture-to-oxford-farming-conference-3-january-2013/. Climatologist that endorses biotech.

  • wiseguy posted at 12:56 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 22

    I guess you failed to read that papayas were on my list of GM foods that we eat. And you're welcome for that one. Had it not been for good science at the University of Hawaii that entire industry would have been demolished by the good old ringspot virus. By blessed I mean that we can eat whatever we want whenever we want.

    Go back 200 years anywhere on this planet and see if they had the same options that you and I do.

    Hey I feel like chicken tonight. Bingo it happens. Even in the middle of the Pacific this can happen. Trust me this is not all good, just look at the obesity rate in our country, but it is nice to have to not sit around and wonder where your next meal is going to come from, like all of our ancestors had to do at some point or another.

  • AnonyMouse posted at 12:19 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    AnonyMouse Posts: 987

    No, I think you missed the point entirely. If it isn't labeled "NO GMO" then it has GMO in it. The reason you don't see it is that about 99% of the food you buy in the supermarket is made at least partially with GMOs. Sorry I can't draw a picture for you.

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:48 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    20+ yrs, Hawai’i has been global center for open-field testing of genetically modified organisms (GMO’s), including pharmaceutical crops. GMO’s are almost always genetically engineered to either resist herbicides or manufacture their own pesticides and Kaua’i (and Hawai’i) is ‘ground zero’ of testing for new and experimental crops. These crops involve the regular application of a range of toxic, persistent and often ‘restricted use’ pesticides and herbicides.

    Over 5,000 tests have been conducted by Monsanto, Dow, Dupont/Pioneer, Syngenta and BASF. These companies spray chemicals on an almost daily basis on to some of our most valuable agriculture lands.

    Concerns include intensive use of pesticides, use of ‘restricted-use’ pesticides, excessive erosion, fugitive dust, pesticide runoff and pesticide drift.
    In Hawai’i we estimate GMO companies own or lease between 40,000 and 60,000 acres that are sprayed with over 70 toxic chemicals.

    They tested us with Agent Orange, now this....

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:46 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    Why are we concerned? On Kauai we have 12,400 acres owned by, or leased to, Pioneer, Syngenta, Bayer, DOW & BASF for GMO/Chemical Open Air Testing. These lands are used for experimental crop trials for some of the most controversial technologies and chemicals of our time. These chemicals run off our lands into our streams and eventually pollute our oceans, and leave a toxic residue for years to come. Banned in Europe! Sprayed on Kaua’i, Associated with birth defects, menstrual problems, reproductive system impacts, cancer and immune and hormone disruption, Exposure turns male frogs female, Connection to low sperm counts in males.

    We are also concerned about the use of DICAMBA, LORSBAN & Accent, Aquamaster, Artrazine, AsanaXL, Banvel, Basagran, BaythroidXL, Bicep II Magnum, Buctril, Callisto, Carbaryl, Dimethoate, Dual II Magnum, Ignite 280SL + AMS, Lasso, Laudis, Liberty, Lorsban, Oberon 2SC, Penncap-M, Permethrin, Phostoxin Pellets, Princep, Prowl, Quadris, Roundup, Powermax & Tilt!

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:40 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    You're missing the point - if it's labelled in one thing and not in the other then without studying exactly every last detail on how to read an ingredient list you can just choose.... If your GMOs are so great - why not label them "MADE WITH GMOs!"

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:39 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    We are the prolonged testing....

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:39 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    Because it hasn't....

    Well I guess to some extent is has now hasn't it.... on us!

    Doesn't seem to do much for us, since its introduction most gut diseases have doubled, diabetes, the list goes on and on... guess it cant be linked to any serious improvement to our situation...

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:37 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    Furthermore... Papayas are 50% GMO.

    And your probably a well off individual, own your own computer, and could eat all organic if you wanted, but I tell you right now that isnt the bulk of my friends, my ohana or my classmates and generation... we have the highest food prices in the country, arguably in some ways the world.... beyond this and the fact that many CANT afford to choose (and live that blessed life).... there is huge amounts of ridiculous marketing and propaganda being pushed onto the average person caught in the rat race and a certain amount of trust that accompanies their choices and their concerns.... this is where the true manipulation lies.... for the many, not the few.

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:34 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    This is not about a person and their health, well maybe for some it is.... but certainly not for me. This is about the health of the environment around you and the use of experimental chemicals...

    Cracks me up when people talk about the UCS and IRT studies being flawed... that is so ridiculous.. all animal studies are flawed to some extent yes, but let me guess the ones that monsanto puts out saying the rats are fine after 90 days is totally solid science.

    Of course the industry pics apart every single study and tries to discredit it in some way, but if you read these individual studies yourself (and have a science background and understanding of what to look for) the decision you generally come to is that there is a serious concern that hasnt been adequately addressed... We live in such a blessed time.... so you obviously arent paying attention to the failure of the worlds food supply, the american (so incredible and wonderful) gmo crop failures.... bee die offs... tomorrow?

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:27 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    but we do not have a choice when it comes to exposure to a range of toxic and potentially dangerous (and often experimental) chemicals that are being sprayed all over our land, into our air and ending up in our drinking, surface, ground and ocean water....where is the choice here... its not like these experiments are in some closed lab somewhere and I am choosing to go in a take a big breath of what they are spraying... they are poisoning common space, common air and water.

    I'm not doing this for MY health, there are a lot of things I would do differently if the motive was me and my overall health... this is about the 7th generation. This is about the kuleana we have as Hawaiians to malama the aina and protect it for the future. The life of our land is perpetuated with a balanced relationship with nature! Instead we are at war with our land and at war with nature.... and we are being poisoned in the process... explain to me again where your choice comes in!???

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:22 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    i suspect they have not....

  • fernnygirl posted at 11:21 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    Yes - but in this case the pollen IS actually presenting a potential health concern too..



  • angelaflynn posted at 9:14 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    angelaflynn Posts: 17

    Wiseguy, I don't think you read any of the studies or you would know that the controls also ate the same diet with the only difference being one was fed gmo and the other fed not gmo.

    For instance in this study - http://www.responsibletechnology.org/article-gmo-soy-linked-to-sterility

    "After feeding hamsters for two years over three generations, those on the GM diet, and especially the group on the maximum GM soy diet, showed devastating results. By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies. They also suffered slower growth, and a high mortality rate among the pups."

    Please if you're going to call yourself wise you can at least try to live up to it. The flawed studies are the ones put out by industry. They skew results all of the time by using too short time periods, using testing material that is not equivalent to their gmo product and creating unrealistic lab conditions compared to real life conditions.

  • AnonyMouse posted at 8:48 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    AnonyMouse Posts: 987

    The thing about GMO labeling of foods is that it’s unnecessary. Right now, foods that do not contain GMO are so proud and eager to tout it that they proclaim it on their labels. It makes up for higher cost of using strictly organic/natural ingredients and the resultant higher retail price. So logically one can assume that all foods that don’t say they don’t have it do have it. Now you know!

  • interesting posted at 4:09 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    i am curious as to why you think prolonged testing has not taken place?

  • interesting posted at 4:07 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    good luck. it is way easier, and on some level far more fun, to rail against the GMO boogie man.

    efforts to lower local drinking/smoking rates, meth usage, fat intake...and increase doctor visits, exercise, and higher quality food intake -- those efforts dont have the galvanizing, binding effect (as to group cohesion) which we see when we dump ills onto the shoulders of a singular "harmful" actor/industry. pretty common human behavior actually

  • interesting posted at 3:59 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    i would suggest most people are not consuming any corporate PR. rather, they notice what the courts and scientists say (sources which seem to hold little weight among this crowd)

  • wiseguy posted at 9:02 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 22

    Each of those studies are inherently flawed. What do you think mice normally eat? A diet wholly composed of soy? Do you think that if you loaded them up with non transgenic soy the same thing would happen?

    And offering cotton to any animal for grazing is ridiculous. Stubble and cottonseed are typically added to their diets in the US with no issues, but grazing cotton at full bloom would blow up any ruminants gut. Feed your cattle clover and see what happens....and there are no GMO versions of clover.

    The point that I was making is that we live in such a blessed time. You can have any diet you want, vegan, pale, atkins, and the list grows. You could eat ice cream every day if you wanted....the point is it's up to you. The fact that most people tend to miss is that other than corn, soy, and papayas the large majority of our diets are GMO free. In the next 50 years the world has to produce more food than it has since creation. Science has to play a role and already has.

  • wiseguy posted at 8:48 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 22

    Was waiting for this one. All of the seed companies, and any private farmer that grows more than one acre, must have conservation plan in place. I think it would be rather interesting to see how many farmers on Kauai actually follow the rules. The plans are administered by the NRCS, which happens to be located in Lihue not somewhere on the mainland.

    The purpose of any approved conservation plan is to protect the environment. All of the seed companies have conservation plans in place. Stop by the NRCS and ask about a plan and what it entails.

    Let's look at some of the damage on Kauai. Researchers have taken great lengths to document the reefs in Hanalei and the death that has taken place. Funny, no biotech companies are farming any land there. How about Kalapaki? There are multiple sewage spills there every year, yet no one seems to bat an eye. Sewage equates to algal blooms that smother the reef. Anyone want to argue that one?

  • violet lotus posted at 8:38 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    violet lotus Posts: 20

    Pollen drift is a problem if the pollen comes from a (gm) plant that, itself, is part pesticide. Yes, that's what's going on. The plant itself is the pesticide. That's what they mean by "round-up ready." If the plant is part round-up, then it won't be damaged when RU gets sprayed on it. Now, tell me that sounds good...

    Intelligent people from all walks and all demographics recognize the massive problems the bio-tech co's. are creating. Small-minded people get side tracked from the issue because they can't relate to the unfamiliar people who are involved in the resistance. I appreciate you, uamaukeeaokaainaikapono, for recognizing the problems and not getting caught up in who's a "hippy," labeling people, etc.

  • Cola posted at 8:26 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Cola Posts: 0

    Did you ever consider that maybe these "farms," moved into other people's backyard? And do you realize that their "generally accepted" practices include aerial spraying of toxic materials that travel far beyond their own fields?

  • violet lotus posted at 8:25 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    violet lotus Posts: 20

    Caption explains that that is a "shopper," not a protester (in the green shirt).

  • violet lotus posted at 8:22 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    violet lotus Posts: 20

    I have not heard from any local farmers that they were sorry to see the Super Ferry chased away, for that reason that you claim.
    The will of the people won on the SF issues, doesn't matter if they were "hippies" or surfers or fishermen... people from all walks came together on that issue.

  • violet lotus posted at 8:19 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    violet lotus Posts: 20

    It's a shame that you are so critical and making generalizations about the appearance of the protesters, and not addressing the point of their activity.
    If you only could understand how you, too, are being hurt by the GMO's.
    Please don't just accept hook, line and sinker, the slick PR, that GMO's are safe and helpful to the planet. There are many studies that show otherwise.

  • Cola posted at 8:18 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Cola Posts: 0

    Obviously there are polarized opinions on this subject, as there are on most. Both sides are to be respected, and each should learn from the other.

    Yesterday's peaceful protest was to raise awareness on a controversial topic which happens to be grounded on our island. Concerned citizens of all walks of life, voicing their opinions, as they feel that GMO are detrimental to the environment and human health.

    I am rather new to the science, but the research that I have come across seems somewhat inconclusive as the prolonged testing has yet to be conducted. But, from what I gather, and what seems cut and clear, is that large highly profitable corporations are altering the DNA of plants, thereby introducing toxins into every cell, and feeding it to "the consumer." In other words, they are testing their science on "we the people." We should learn from the past, when our parents and grandparents were told that smoking cigarrettes and drinking alocohol was safe... the choice is ours!

  • angelaflynn posted at 7:52 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    angelaflynn Posts: 17

    There is good science on the dangers of GMOs. Visit http://www.responsibletechnology.org/ and you will find more on these studies.

    Thousands of sheep, buffalo, and goats in India died after grazing on Bt cotton plants. Mice eating GM corn for the long term had fewer, and smaller, babies. More than half the babies of mother rats fed GM soy died within three weeks, and were smaller. Testicle cells of mice and rats on a GM soy change significantly. By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies. Rodents fed GM corn and soy showed immune system responses and signs of toxicity. Cooked GM soy contains as much as 7-times the amount of a known soy allergen. Soy allergies skyrocketed by 50% in the UK, soon after GM soy was introduced. The stomach lining of rats fed GM potatoes showed excessive cell growth, a condition that may lead to cancer. Studies showed organ lesions, altered liver and pancreas cells, changed enzyme levels, etc.

  • getreal posted at 6:58 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    getreal Posts: 58

    I will come right out and say you are totally full of it when you claim to know what the bulk of local farmers want regarding anything, much less the SF. You're the fool to make a claim like that.

  • getreal posted at 6:52 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    getreal Posts: 58

    "You have the choice, the same as I do."

    Problem is we don't have a choice about the environmental damage they cause and that is proven.

  • interesting posted at 6:07 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    i would only ask you be evidence based and per hour granular (and almost theoretical) you are getting with your hazards, i trust you dont use cell phones, or travel in cars, lives near high voltage power lines, or get within 100 feet of gas stations, or touch plastic, etc., etc.

  • interesting posted at 6:03 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    "these experimental crops are not food grade..."

    -- fair point

    and one would think that most reasonable people could understand if any local organic corn farmers on kauai (and i assume there are some) have some sort of legit concern (albeit a legal one, not a health one)

  • interesting posted at 5:56 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    then we had widely different interview experiences and feedback then. the talk i heard (and it seemed informed and sincere) was that they wanted/liked the idea of having that option to reach the larger markets on oahu (i think too it had something to go with the prices they got there, but these conversations were a few years back so i am actually not 100% on some of the details). noticed i stopped short of calling you being biased in your reporting and/or totally disingenuous

  • wiseguy posted at 5:56 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    wiseguy Posts: 22

    I think that individuals should begin focusing on topics that are scientifically proven to be a true health hazard. Things like smoking cigarettes, which have health warnings on each and every pack sold, a known carcinogen. You don't see any protests or rallies against that. Or how about alcohol? How many people die each year due to alcohol? Again no protests. But we do protest something that has zero deaths associated with it, mostly I think due to the big corporations that own the companies.

    Ever heard of Winston or Budweiser? Pretty big companies. You don't see the protesting because society has decided that the use of those products are a matter of choice....same as meth and heroin. People can decide to use them or not. GMOs are the same. If you don't want to eat them, buy products that are certified organic. You have the choice, the same as I do.

    Good science is always protested. Pasteurized milk was protested because some people thought it was unsafe. We see how that played out.

  • fernnygirl posted at 4:50 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    I suggest that we remember that “maintaining agriculture as a major sector of Hawaii’s economy," particularly with current controversial and highly impacting practices, is nowhere near as important as preserving Hawai’i farmlands and their soil, microbial life, and suitability for food grade farming into the future. I refer to the same Article as the bill, XI Section 3, where the Hawaii Constitution mandates “The state shall conserve and protect agricultural lands, promote diversified agriculture, increase agricultural sufficiency and assure availability of agriculturally suitable lands.”

  • fernnygirl posted at 4:49 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    Myself, my ohana and our community are in strong opposition to SB 590 (The Hawai’i Right to Farm Bill). We interpret the name of SB 590 to be very deceptive. ‘Right to Farm’ suggests that the bill supports, in some way, the people of Hawai’i in their right to farm. However, in reality SB 590 does the exact opposite. This bill prevents our people and farmers from being able to protect themselves from large industrial farming practices and agri-chemical corporations.

    We believe SB 590 to be in polar opposition to our state constitutional values and the basis of Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Āina i ka Pono. This bill attempts to direct the state in the direction that large industrial corporations desire for it to go in; while disregarding environmental management concerns by exempting corporations of liability for their actions.

  • fernnygirl posted at 4:48 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    Nice one we beat that bill - thrown out, partially due to the many voices on Kauai being heard. MAHALO!

  • fernnygirl posted at 4:47 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    fernnygirl Posts: 4

    You're totally missing the point of the statement which is.. what they are producing is not helping with the fact that we import 90% of our food and export cattle feed that is experimental and pesticide ridden... When we have great farmland and year round growing conditions... they are pointing out that these experimental crops are not food grade...

    And pollen drift is acknowledged as an issue, and is so for two reasons, (1) the threat of it here because of Bt is one issue all together (a health issue). (2) Then you have cross pollination, which impacts organic growers and spreads restricted patents.

    Further information on pollen drift:


    Pollen Drift issue with the Papaya:

    http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/papaya042103.cfm http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Food/Bad_Seeds.html

    In regards to your final comment. Have you watched Genetic Roulette??

  • OrganicFarmer posted at 3:59 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    OrganicFarmer Posts: 5

    Not sure what farmers you are talking about. Me and most of the farmers in our community were 100% against the super ferry. It is far cheaper to ship aloha air or through young brothers than the super ferry was and far less likely to carry invasive species.

  • AnonyMouse posted at 1:51 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    AnonyMouse Posts: 987

    Hawaii State Senate Bill 590 is perfectly reasonable. If you decided to live by a farm and yet are bothered by its legal use of its land (not YOUR land), then you should have your head examined.

  • Elijah posted at 1:15 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Elijah Posts: 0

    Yesterday's crowd had about 20 Hawaiians 40 people that were born and raised and 20 or more kids of all ethnic backgrounds. My Uncle Bobo Ham Young and his mother Aunty Kalehua Ham Young, two of the most genuine Hawaiians I know drove out from Ha'ena to help raise awareness about GMO. I also saw Chandlers, Pu'ulei's, Waipa's, Hermosura's and many other Hawaiian families there.

    If you don't think GMO will have a negative impact on our land, water and the health of our kids maybe its time to do a little research. Sustainable organic farming is the only way to ensure long term food security for our Island. If you want to learn about sustainability and how to live off the land just ask a Hawaiian who lives it everyday. GMO is an issue the people of Kaua'i needs to come together on.

    This is for our future and our children and together we can make a difference.


    Elijah Frank

  • 098765 posted at 12:58 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    098765 Posts: 43


  • uamaukeeaokaainaikapono posted at 12:39 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    uamaukeeaokaainaikapono Posts: 77

    Interesting, us fools read up and find out facts! You may disagree and it's okay with me, but i am playing on the safe side and i won't call you a fool, cuz you have your beliefs and reasons for your comments.

    Oh pollen drift--it contaminates other crops with their gmo magic! They cross pollinate and then the seeds produced are no good anymore. Pollen drift is also very bad for the respiratory system---our children here suffer from respiratory problems and asthma in great numbers! I haven't had a vaccination for several years now after i got very ill after my last vaccination---you're right again! But i do visit the hospital and doctors, they do good and it's credible for me!

    By the way, i really wanted the superferry! I am not saying they are not legit, i don't agree with their methods and the harm they cause.

    Aloha and blessings!

  • Tila96766 posted at 12:39 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Tila96766 Posts: 7

    It's interesting to read brave people that just trust in everything corporate slides into your life. You = true believers. You are carrying the Shield of Faith...er, in this case BlindFaith. We've read here that Blind Faith is an accumulation beginning with Santa Claus, you know at a ripe age and stage of ones mind's development you get something for free & it's a happy time, one of a child's initial highs, jag really.

    But the Blind Faith is you never really see Santa Claus come down that Chimney, or thru the jalousie glass. Like aspirin leads to antibiotics and painkillers, tobacco, alcohol, & pot, coke, ice, and oxy's; so Santa Claus leads to the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, & high school spirit...fight fight fight for your High School? By then you are so full of Blind Faith you'd even join the military and kill innocent people until they get you & then no one cares about you & all for the greater profit of the elite. GMO companies do what they do for profit...bcuz they can.

  • Deke posted at 11:42 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Deke Posts: 19

    And then there is Hawaii State Senate bill 590 which will make farmers immune to legal remedies for any damage caused by aerial spraying, insecticide use, pesticide use etc. Pioneer, Monsanto, etc. trying to cover themselves at the expense of residents harmed ?

    Call Senator Ron Kouchi at 808 586 6030 to vote against this bill.

  • interesting posted at 11:36 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    so if they are not growing stuff for on-island consumption, they are not legit? by that measure, then all on-island cattle operations are similarly illegitimate and pollen?

    please point out how pollen drift is recognized as some sort of hazard/nuisance (i mean...its not like a chemical spray, its not like ash from a burning canefield..). so "pollen drift" is a big red flad you are throwing up?

    and the claims of harm to humans from any GMO-related food is about as strong as the claims of harm from "smart meters" (in other words - the claims are absurdly and embarrassingly weak) but your advocating strongly that no members of your family receive standard vaccination--the kind that kids get--that is probably a good idea. stay away from those (and hospitals)

  • uamaukeeaokaainaikapono posted at 10:21 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    uamaukeeaokaainaikapono Posts: 77

    I'm not a hippy, lived here all my life (only away for school), am 65 years old, Japanese and stand with these folks!

    You all should read up about the problems we face on the west side because of the pesticides, dust and pollen drift! Not to mention the river, ocean and all the creatures that live here, including us human beings! Don't be clueless and selfish, we are suffering!

    Also, read up on how these companies are experimenting with their pesticides, genetic engineering and not providing food for Kauai! And then, for more reading, check out the articles about what they use to make the gmo crops resistant to Roundup, 2-4D, etc. You will be amazed! Then do some reading on the medical research and how gmo foods create health problems for many----if you are strong, tough and have a great immune system, i am sure you won't be greatly impacted---but time will tell!

    Aloha and blessings!

  • Happy Accident posted at 9:09 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Happy Accident Posts: 473

    ...We make the R&D and use of GMO illegal and force all food production without exception into strict organic principals. What's not to like? The only little problem here is that it will greatly increase the cost of food production. But then, since the poor and now the spot-lighted middle class will be hurt by these higher costs we'll have to raise taxes on (who else?) the rich and their corporations. But then my retirement plan which is invested entirely in the stock of corporations will suffer so then I'll need the government to raise taxes again. It just goes on and on and on.......

  • Happy Accident posted at 9:01 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Happy Accident Posts: 473

    You got it, interesting. We really need to make this island more like California so those folks are more comfortable. Here's the plan: We abrogate all open farm and ranch lands because no one should own more than five acres. Then split them up into smaller plots and give them away to all our wanna-be small farmer friends. Then as each of us raising is our own organically grow food, trading our surplus produce at tax-exempt farmers markets (because other folks pay taxes for us), and only purchasing and using what is manufactured and obtainable within a bicycle ride from our homes which are powered solely by the sun and the wind. Yes! We can do it Kauai! Make a better life for our children! Oh ya, and free pakalolo we've grow ourselves! The hippie paradise mirroring feudal Britain but with free land. So the solution to the protester's complaints and one which starts with land redistribution. Or...

  • interesting posted at 9:01 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    they are largely fools, actually. but worship them if you want. same people that worked against the bulk of local farmers who wanted the super-ferry to open markets to oahu

  • paystatus posted at 8:58 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    paystatus Posts: 169

    the guy on the corner, in the green shirt, by the light pole, is carrying Coors Light; i guess they plan to drink that, which is great; however : from the Coors website: Molson Coors Brewing Company Statement On Genetically Modified Organism Ingredients: In some parts of the world, particularly North America, GMO food products are approved for use and widely available. Our suppliers cannot guarantee that the corn (maize) products that we also use in brewing are GMO free. A wide variety of foods and beverages in North America contain these same corn (maize) ingredients.

  • paystatus posted at 8:41 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    paystatus Posts: 169

    i am not for or against anyting really; but these folks look like they need some sunshine vitamin D and exercise;

    GMO appears to be the least of their worries;

    just sayin'

  • KeepItReal posted at 8:10 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    KeepItReal Posts: 5

    Too true! Drove by there yesterday and the majority of the crowd looked like Berkeley hippies!

  • getreal posted at 7:47 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    getreal Posts: 58

    At least they have the courage to go and stand up for what they believe, unlike you always making snarky comments under the misnomer of interesting.

  • interesting posted at 4:43 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    interesting Posts: 1931

    haha. wow. these things sure do bring out the California transplant hippy crowd huh?


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