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Kaua‘i sets pace for electric cars

Island 1 of 3 places in nation to offer fastest charging station

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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:00 am

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  • snowhula posted at 2:59 am on Tue, Jun 26, 2012.

    snowhula Posts: 9

    Good points, all.
    Just remember, Electric cars don't elminate pollution, they just relocate it to the power plant, rather than the tail pipe.

    In addition, the manufacturing of solar cells, like computer hardware, requires dangerous chemicals causing environmental damage.

    On the mainland, electric cars might make sense IF they had useful range (so far only Tesla has reached that goal, with up to 300 miles per charge) and IF the greenies wouldn't have stopped all nuke plant construction.

    Because we have to use coal and natural gas-fired electric power plants, adding more electric cars simply adds more Carbon Dioxide, thus more "global warming." Nuke plants don't have global issues: their problems are local. Even Chernobyl only directly affected a 50-mile radius: far short of "global." So it seems the "green" folks have caused some of the global warming problem themselves.

    I'm all for electric vehicles, IF they are functional solutions. So far, very few seem to be.

  • mrwizard posted at 7:47 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    mrwizard Posts: 12

    That's right kids, magic.
    Why I just rub my two cheeks together and presto, dzzt dzzt.

  • Notsoshyguy posted at 6:43 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    Notsoshyguy Posts: 143

    This is great because electricity comes from MAGIC!

  • FlyinHawaiian posted at 1:03 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    FlyinHawaiian Posts: 3

    On another point...

    The Hyatt uses THE MOST electricity on the south side. Period. Need proof? Wanna guess who's power came on FIRST after the island wide outage a few months ago whereas other resorts were left in the dark for hours longer? There's a reason for that, the Hyatt's power bill is well into the 6 figures PER MONTH. Please don't patronize the public with your little solar cells that aren't even enough to keep the pool water pumps running.

    I'm all for businesses making money, don't get me wrong. But lying about trying to improve the environment (while destroying it) to make MORE money is just wrong by my standards. But that's just me...

  • FlyinHawaiian posted at 12:55 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    FlyinHawaiian Posts: 3

    I remember reading a letter someone submitted 6-8 months ago about that very car shown in the photo. The Nissan Leaf. This person also took the time and broke down the cost of running this particular car VS. hybrid and normal combustion 4-cylinder cars.

    If I remember correctly (which I DO) The Leaf is the MOST EXPENSIVE to run, even more than a compact that runs on straight gasoline. He/She also went on to state that the only way a Leaf or any electric car makes sense is when the cost per Kilowatt hour is very low, such as in places like the Mid-West. On Kauai I can't remember a time that electricity costs were up to par with the rest of the U.S. which begs the question...Where do the county officials, who came up with this idea, come from? Certainly not here or they would never have wasted so much money on such a futile endeavor.

    How much would you bet that if a zero-emmision car was created that ran on GOLD the county would be the first to get one just as another PR stunt...

  • CouldBe808 posted at 12:52 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    CouldBe808 Posts: 126

    I don't understand why they put one in front of Payless.

  • Moehoward posted at 12:00 pm on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    Moehoward Posts: 35

    Gee how green and progressive, naphtha powered cars.

  • Tod posted at 10:01 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    Tod Posts: 15

    $115/day ... is a huge detractor.

    As with anything "green" ... having it cost more makes it so much less desirable.

    Especially as KauaiBoy points out ... the electricity still comes from fossil fuel.

    What have you gained?

  • kauaiboy posted at 9:09 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    kauaiboy Posts: 262

    Doug Sears of the Hyatt is quoted as saying "The Grand Hyatt has been a pioneer on Kaua’i in the green initiative, already using solar panels that generate 1,250 kilowatts per day. The new station can “power 50 complete charges a day,” said Sears, “and it is a perfectly clean solution because it is not using traditional forms of power.”

    I am the hugest fan of alternative energy, but let's call a spade a spade. How much of the Hyatt's energy usage is covered by the kilowatts they produce? All of them, including any electricity this dispenser provides??

    If so, that is wonderful.

    If not, then at least a portion of all electrical usage, including that used to charge electric car batteries, is created by burning diesel fuel at Port Allen, not exactly a perfectly clean solution and certainly using at least some traditional forms of power.

  • Yakauai posted at 8:50 am on Mon, Jun 25, 2012.

    Yakauai Posts: 309

    why was the charging station set right in the front of the mall, one of the best parking spaces? how many people actually have one of those cars? well at leaste the county and state workers will always have a great parking space so they can get cofffee easy. they could have placed the charging station at the outside edge of the lot. the charging station is empty 99% percent of the time.


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